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is there a difference between the first run esp crush and an esp crush that isnt first run? to me the plastic feels harder and it feels a bit more overstable. just wonderin

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idk but the esp crush is awesome
Sure, if you can notice a difference then there is. Every run of discs is at least a bit different but the big rimmed drivers vary more than other discs (putters, mids, fairway drivers, etc.).

I love Crushes but prefer them in Z (pure candy). The Z's are usually flatter than the ESP's, which is forehand friendly.
At least better than the Red Sox! Sorry I feel your pain. It's been a bad weekend for Boston area sports.

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