honestly, the reason more innovas are found in the waters and in o.b. territory is because they're thrown more widely. innova is endorsed by the best player ever, and by WAAAAY more world champs than team discraft. anyway, the best innovas are: the aviar, best and most widely used putter in disc golf, has won more tourneys/championships than any other putter. the wraith: one of the most reliable distance drivers ever. beautiful curve if thrown correctly. i can throw mine in excess of 350' on a good throw. cro/roc: about the same, except roc has a bit more high speed turn and glide, but cro is faster with a little less hst and glide.