If you've thrown Rocs your whole life, as many of you have, try hucking a Buzzz. In terms of straightness, nothing compares. Lightly beat up a Buzzz in D-Plastic, and you've got a turnover Roc. Get a heavy Buzzz (180) or same weight in FLX ,and you've got hyzer Roc. Don't get me wrong Rocs are great, but they're not as unique as they used to be.