I think I still have some of those original XDs lying around..Can you post a pic of your '77' mold...Is it blue or Red stamp?...This past summer I gave my son my old set of midnight flyers to play in his first tournament...it was great to watch alot of the newer players oggle at his set and at 6 years old he thought he was the king of the course!!!
Still throw a Pheonix...WOW..I never could throw them even when I had an arm...LOL
The original 80 molds had lettering molded in on the bottom of the Frisbee. Freestylers couldn't do nail delays without shaving them of first. In the late '70s we started sending the shaved-off letters and numbers to Wham-o in order to pressure them into stopping, and they did!
I like what 1080 Discs are doing to help with the lack of mold markings on new golf discs. They put the run and batch #s on every disc. With their system in place, we won't have to guess if we are getting the same disc as the favorite that is being replaced. They put this info. on the disc in the hot-stamping process, rather than in the actual casting mold. It would make life easier for everybody if all manufacturers adopted this practice. I know alot of players looking for "old Beasts", but there is no designation on either the old one or new ones to make it easy to know which one is in their hand. I don't care for the desention, but the silver lining is obvious. We need to band TOGETHER to pressure the disc makers to do a better job of labeling the discs. I don't care if they use mold #s (although Wham-o might) or just change the name of the disc for each new mold. History has shown that the end users of any product have the final say in what is brought to market. Let's use our power to effect positive change.
Good points. As an old Wham-O player I know exactly what you mean. 40-molds were relatively stable, straight flyers, 41's were under-stable and 42's were over-stable, etc. I think one thing that makes the mold number obsolete for newer discs is that the tops and bottoms of molds get inter-changed in order to come up with slight modifications of discs (actually, this is just a hypothesis...).
Since I started playing I got very interested in collecting old glow pastic and have become quite attached to old school Night Flyers. Now I don't play with any of them except for one that is already kind of beat up. I take it on camping trips and tournaments when I know I have a chance of playing at night 'cause everyone knows these things glow like a sumbitch. I don't play with it in competition. It is a Midnight Flyer 2nd generation of golf discs no trademark rings 41 mold circa 1979. The disc hangs on my office wall at work. They are alot of fun to throw at night with friends.
And to back up Scott. Old skool players would relate calling a disc a mold to original disc golf Frisbees for the already afor mentioned reasons. I think new skool players would relate mold with the type of disc Beast Gazelle etc.
not a hypothesis bro "SL "TL" these are hybrid discs "SL"=Starfire x Leopard and the same with "TL" i cant remember if its teebird or tee rex but they are crossed with the leopard to make it a slightly different disc