well, i did say basically ... no, thanks for the info ben. it looks about the same side by side. i have a 2x in the old mold that's pretty gummy. i haven't thrown it. but i might start now. so the old mold is somewhere between the new beast-l and the orc in stability?
After the CE and before the Champ stuff you know today. I have some Pro-Line discs like that. It was not as solid as the old CE stuff, but you could still not see through it. Like you can with the current Champ stuff.