All the Big News Outlets Are Talking About the $800k DG Course Proposal

This just hit within the last week.. and today all the big news channels launched a bit of a sharp angle on it.. because it is questionable as a help for stimulus. Personally, I am a veteran of such an expensive course .. Rose Park.. www.Motodom.com/RosePark.html (Though $500K of construction was donated! Yeah!) So I am an advocate.. just sad to see the topic comes off as some sort of whipping joke wrt stimulus package.

Today it hit, ABC, CBS, FOX.. ,no doubt more drama to come...

Disc golf course project causes a stir

http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.nuwireinvestor.com/...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,488264,00.html

[Jamie 'gr8rocshot' Ruane]

eric beich said:

I'm moving to Austin so I can get a job with this project and be one of those guys in the reflective vests that stands around doing nothing :)

Don't pack your bags....quite yet! HA!

[www.Motodom.com]

This media thing really sucks. They truly talk constantly about the stimulus and day after day, they are stuck on beating up "Frisbee Golf." As in "how does spending 800 billion on xxx, xxx, and Frisbee golf save the economy?" Argh.

I thought when I heard about the Austin "proposal," that it would be a poor "stimulus" idea, but good gawd, it is now used as the spearhead to state how unwise this stimulus is..

[skinner]

www.Motodom.com said:

This media thing really sucks. They truly talk constantly about the stimulus and day after day, they are stuck on beating up "Frisbee Golf." As in "how does spending 800 billion on xxx, xxx, and Frisbee golf save the economy?" Argh.

I thought when I heard about the Austin "proposal," that it would be a poor "stimulus" idea, but good gawd, it is now used as the spearhead to state how unwise this stimulus is..

I have yet to hear anything about the proposed $800K Austin DG course on the toob. Which channel(s) are you seeing this on?

[Patrick Brogdon]

So earmark anything that he "doesn't understand" Nice Hannity. Personal ignorance is not something that I would use to prove my point.

[www.Motodom.com]

skinner said:

I have yet to hear anything about the proposed $800K Austin DG course on the toob. Which channel(s) are you seeing this on?
The TV mention it here and there now... where it really crops up everyday, is in newspaper articles and editorials across the country. If I listed every one that came up, as they came up, this discussion would be another couple pages longer.

[Big Steve]

I'm sure this project was chosen because it is "shovel ready" and also because Austin is the second most liberal city in the US. You know those Dems like to take care of their own (earmarks) just like the republicans. I'm all for more disc golf courses, but not at the expense of the federal tax payer when the gov't is expecting trillion dollar deficits. Disc golf courses should be funded privately or from local budgets. IMO, you need a shovel for a majority of this stimulus package.

[Patrick Brogdon]

As Scooter said, the expensive part of this project is the Pro Shop that is going in. It is creating at least one or two jobs, and a revenue stream for the property. None of that has been mentioned anywhere in the media. Anywhere....

Big Steve said:

I'm sure this project was chosen because it is "shovel ready" and also because Austin is the second most liberal city in the US. You know those Dems like to take care of their own (earmarks) just like the republicans. I'm all for more disc golf courses, but not at the expense of the federal tax payer when the gov't is expecting trillion dollar deficits. Disc golf courses should be funded privately or from local budgets. IMO, you need a shovel for a majority of this stimulus package.

[www.Motodom.com]

Yeah, the only place I heard about the proposal for it to go mostly for a pro shop.. was here. Kudos for spreading truth.

But then, on the other hand, if you use ratios for creating 2 jobs.. heck let's say its even 4 jobs.. for an 800k investment.. then at that rate to create 2 million jobs, as Obama hopes, it would take 40 trillion dollars in the form of a stimulus.. not 800 billion. So even as noble as a pro shop and 2 new jobs would be.. it's just asking to get spanked as a topic of discussion in the media. As it unfortunately has been.

[AuSSie]

man that is heaps of money in australia we have trouble talking the councils into giving us $10 000 for a course. If they want to stimulate the economy maybe they should have the worlds biggest pay out in a tournament pay the first 150 players get them out spending thats sure to help the economy a little bit.

[Mike]

This stimulus money is going to be used in many wrong ways all over the country, by local and fedral government. Many of the cities that are planning projects are things that should not be paid for by the Federal tax payer. Las Vegas getting more neon lights??? WTF! I think the casinos make enough money to help invest in that venture. I guess if these funds are getting used for other absurd things that are already plentiful than why not a disc golf course? How about some of the states that don't have enough money for tax refunds? There are so many things that are not getting focused on at the present time, things that are more important than building more stuff. When nobody has a job, nobody will be in Vegas to enjoy the new lights, nobody will have extra money to support a new pro shop. Everyone just wants to hurry up and get this money out there, but I don't see it really doing much of anything immediately, or in the long haul to stimulate the economy.
Big Steve said:

I'm sure this project was chosen because it is "shovel ready" and also because Austin is the second most liberal city in the US. You know those Dems like to take care of their own (earmarks) just like the republicans. I'm all for more disc golf courses, but not at the expense of the federal tax payer when the gov't is expecting trillion dollar deficits. Disc golf courses should be funded privately or from local budgets. IMO, you need a shovel for a majority of this stimulus package.

[John Sturtevant]

I haven't seen or heard anything on this, but if they start ripping on us golfers I am going to get po'd. Not every golfer is in agreement of the subject, just look at this thread.

For 800k, alot of talk has gone on about just 2 or 4 jobs, but what about the construction, setting up, landscaping, electrical, water and course maintenance, not to mention the equipment that will need to be bought (not just the proshop stuff, but also baskets, tee pads signs). I think it might have a more immediate impact on the local economy, but less of a long term impact.

Can't believe I just supported, kinda, part of the Stimulus, though I think it should have gone somewhere else where disc golf is not so saturated already.

[Trey McKelvey]

Mark Stephens said:

That is because for that type of money 1-2 jobs is not really that good of a return on an investment.

At my local pay to play course there are approximately 15 people employed. You are forgetting grounds keepers and security guards, besides the 5 pro shop attendants. That in itself is a good stimulus for the economy, Creation Of Jobs.