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Get something that isn't gummy, it absorbs the power you put on the disc from initial release AND when it hits the ground.
I equate it to stiffening the suspension on a 1/4 mile race car, soft suspension doesn't transfer the energy to the tires as well, so you lose speed, quickness, and power. I like to roll with hard Z/champ/opto as I've gotten more consistent results.
Thanks for your article.I am looking for solution of plastics or molds that work better than other .I don't have any knowledge about it ,but for help ,i am search more information .
Interesting thread. A lot of good advice here :-)
Looking at the "scientific" side of the subject.... As Sean mentioned; Stiffer plastic will not flex as much at first impact, thus it will keep more of the discs momentum/energy initiated by the throw, not losing it in the plastic flexing when it hits the ground. More mass in the rim should probably result in more stabilizing "gyroscopic" forces, as well as keeping up the speed. So, quite stiff and wide rimmed discs would most likely be best suited for max roller distance provided you can give them as much spin as a disc with a more shallow rim.
Another interesting aspect of rollers I think is the rolling pattern. Generally a more understable disc will turn a lot more in the last part of a roller. Whereas a sharp edged more overstable disc is easier to get a much straighter line on the ground. Also adapt to the ground; well kept grass fairways can handle sharp disc edges but if there's more dirt, or even sand, on the fairway the sharp edge is more prone to cut through the surface and loose speed as well as direction. So in these conditions I ususally step down a notch, to a Roc, or similar blunt edged discs. (Flat flip flies straight, tilted flip rolls, experiment! ;-)
I personally use glo Rocs for short to midrange rollers, especially when I want a wide turn around obstacles, Z Surge for straight distance, Champion Monarch for curved distance, and occasionally a Champion Destroyer to throw a high sky roller over bushes/trees before it touch ground and starts to roll.
"I'm MPM, I am allowed to roll!"
I do use some midrange discs on short range shots to work around objects. Still trying to gauge each disc for distance and how large of a circle they produce.
I have a couple lat 64 Rivers in my bag, pretty interesting, they like to circle away from the dome. If I throw them right hand forehand they will break to the right about a 150' out. The cut to the right is pretty sharp, so distance on them is not long, but it sure comes in handy every now and then to know they will make that turn every time.
Thanks for the feedback swep.
I am looking to pick up a stiffer Firebird in Champ plastic probably this weekend. Looking for a disc that is maybe a bit longer on forehand distance as well. I wonder if a Wraith in Champ plastic would do the trick, or a Champ Destroyer like swepster is throwing. Once the wing width gets a little wider, it's harder to impart top spin on the disc.
Still experimenting on the backhand side of things; although the Stingray has been sweet. I just need to get it in a heavier weight.