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I love the feel of the star plastic. I like to throw what is comfortable in my hands
Thats not the first time I've heard the Stingray brought up Donny. I have a lighter weight one for my daughter in DX. I'll have to give it a throw and then go look at a heavier weight in champ plastic. Thanks Donny, appresciate it brother.
When you coming down to Socal so we can play?
I'm using an old beat-up Boss believe it or not. It's R-Pro plastic (hate that stuff) and it has become extremely understable. I never experimented with "rollers" until I had a bad release on my Boss, it turned over, hit the ground and rolled for at least 500' which was 200' past the basket. I've tried throwing rollers since then, but they seem difficult to manage, but when thrown correctly for the given conditions (wind, terrain, etc) they can certainly add significant distance and I can see where they'd be good to get around trees where low lying branches prevent a standard throw.
I don't throw forehand, but I want to start using that style for a few specialty holes.
The round ones work best.
Ok, this sounded weird but really, any disc in your bag can be an effective roller.
Rollers, (like any other shot) might be used for short shots, medium shots or long range shots. Whatever disc you would use for an air shot at a given distance will also work well for a roller (so putters for short shots, drivers for long shots). One of the many risks of throwing good rollers is controlling distance. A beautiful looking roller which goes 100' long is not a good shot and maybe disastrous.
Generally players use understable discs for backhand rollers but more overstable discs for forehand rollers. Being forehand dominant, I almost never throw backhand rollers (it is basically my last choice). For longer rollers I typically use a Crush (darn overstable, similar to a Firebird), for midrange a Buzzz and for short a Magnet.
I learned them the only way I guess that you can, throw them, throw them, throw them. I throw backhand, forehand, thumber, tomahawk, and I'm getting the roller down. I primarily backhand, and my distance is good, there a just some holes that I can see a roller just doing the trick.
Around the hole on shortrange shots I am using the Magnet with my forehand throw, it works really well. It doesn't want to roll over on it's top very easily on a backhand throw though.
I haven't been using overstable discs on my forehand rollers, but the thought has crossed my mind. Since I throw the Crush, Firebirds, and Boss's for most of my forehand drives.
I find that I also have to use an arm slot somewhere between my forehand and a tomhawk to really get the forhehand roller going for distance. By bringing the arm up higher in the slot, i get a sooner turn to the left. Bring the arm down too low and the disc won't come up on edge at all.
I have shot the whole bag; first trying to find what discs roll well, and then eventually; like you said Mark, using them all as rollers. It took time to learn, but I do know what to expect now if I pull a disc out to roll, I know what the limitations are based on my ability and the discs speed and stability.
@Mark- When are you coming to Southern California brother, we can just work out my roller sitch then. Would be willing to trade for lodging and the best Mexican food you ever had.
Jim Oates taught me how to throw a roller in the late 90's on hole 6 at Shady Oaks with a Stingray. These days I use a DX Shark for shorter backhand rollers, A Sirius Orion LS for Longer ones, and a star Teebird for forehand rollers. I really recommend the Orion LS. It is really easy to roll off the shelf and stays straight for a long time during the roll before the turn.