It's new to me. I found a CE Classic Roc. The mold is a bit diff than the old Champ Roc's or even the DX Roc's. This thing is $$$$$. It's the first disc I grab on short range shots now. Now as far as NEW , I have a 150g R-Pro Boss. Still trying to figure it out, but when I do get a good hit and don't grip lock it. It does fly pretty far!