I know that the Roc came first, and I also know that everyone has their own opinion, and I know what everyone's opinion smells like. I started this forum not to say bad things about either mid-range, but to talk about the good things about either mid range.
My point of view on rocs versus discraft midranges "the hive" (buzz, drone and wasp)
I like the roc. I think it is the best disc ever made. I can throw it 400' or I can stick it under the pin from 110', hell I'd even trust putting with it.
I have used "the hive before" and been pleased with what they did. I could not however carry just one of them and do all the throws that I can do with one roc.
It's all in how well you know the disc in your hand. I throw the roc all the time, therefore, I trust I can throw it how I want.
The best thing about any model of any disc is how consistent it is from batch to batch. My experience has been that I can pick up a new roc and go out and make the throw. I haven't owned enough discraft to say whether the buzz or the other two are made consistent.
I prefer the Buzzz, for some reason it just feels better in my hand I have tried dozens of rocks made from all sorts of plastics but they never feel as good to me at the buzzz. To me it feels as tho the lip on a roc is deeper and seems to catch more as it leaves my hand. I like the roc can throw the roc but just cant seam to master it as well as I have the buzzz (not to say that I have mastered it either).
I"m about feel myself and the Buzzz does feel better with my grip. I've thrown a Roc for a long time because all the pros say it is the best disc made. I can say that I do like both and have also heard that they're the same disc relatively speaking. I'm not sure that I can completely agree with that statement, but if i were to pick a near equivalent in each of the disc manufacturers, i'd say they're a crossover of each other.
I've been throwing my Buzz a lot more lately and hit my first ace with it in less than 24hrs of owning it and I feel like I can control it better. Again, discs are about preference and how you throw and how big your hands are. Play with both and see what works for you. Also, what works really well for one person won't necessarily produce the same results for the next person.
I'm a Buzz user. Made the switch from a very trusted Roc at the beginning of last season and have been very pleased with the results. Mainly made the choice to support the hometown production...I'm a Michigan raised golfer.
The way I think of Atrain's comment on the whole "hive" verse a single Roc is that I generally see a Roc thrower carry three different Rocs in varying stages of "broken in". Where the Buzz thrower carries maybe 2 Buzzes, one newer or of different plastic then the second, and a Wasp or Drone as well. Both players carry 3 discs but for three different uses.
Personally, I love my ESP plastic and both the Buzz and Wasp are run in that plastic. The Roc though is the same ol' Roc. I can go through 5 Rocs a season, and only 2 or 3 Buzzes.