I am in need of a new magic disc. It is to have almost NO glide, and be fairly overstable or at least not understable. Something like the Rhyno (my love) but with even LESS distance and glide. I want to rip it like a 500 ft. drive but have it go 250 ft. tops. I could use it for short woods holes instead of trying to throw soft just rip it and get the same results. Can't wait to get one in my bag.