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I am in need of a new magic disc. It is to have almost NO glide, and be fairly overstable or at least not understable. Something like the Rhyno (my love) but with even LESS distance and glide. I want to rip it like a 500 ft. drive but have it go 250 ft. tops. I could use it for short woods holes instead of trying to throw soft just rip it and get the same results. Can't wait to get one in my bag.

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I hear Innova is making a Pig+ to accommodate this very thing!
NO Glide please. I throw 500+ with drivers, I want something that goes 200' and just stops moving, when I throw it like a driver. I love my Rhyno but it goes 300'. C'mon Innova!
How about a Rhyno+ then? We'll also make it your signature disc and it will even have a Van Halen stamp on it.
Rattler= way too large, flips and rolls

I am thinking what if the rim was thicker than a Rhyno, like a driver but shaped like a midrange not flat and triangular. If that wouldn't add too much weight, it could slow a disc down make if beefier.
It would be tough to counteract the understability that would create I think.
The vp has little glide and is pretty stable/overstable- though I'm sure you've tried em.

How far do you think you can throw a 10 meter brick;)
Tried a firm Ion yet?

Can rip it...
So didn't work, tree on first shot. It needs to be slimmer, yet somehow not fast. And the VP had too much initial turn, wouldn't be good for narrow tunnels.
ESP Zone is the closest thing I've found to what you're talking about. I know you've probably thrown one (because you've probably thrown everything) but it definately has less distance and glide than your rhynos.
Yeah I couldnt throw that disc far at all:)
I got his answer.....It's called the Zephyr. While it may not meet Ben's criteria of 'no glide' and "overstable'....you can rip it as hard as you like...it ain't going anywhere near 500 ft. lmao!!
You need a DX Piranha. To bad they don't make them anymore.

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