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cyclone and cyclone 2 i own both and i cant seem to figure out what the main difference is.   

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Have you thrown them? Clyclone 2 is a lot more over stable, and the X-Clone even more overstable!!!
i have my z cyclone is wayy overstable and the cyclone 2 is actually understable for me
Been years since I have thrown them. Joe is right though.
Wow! that brings back memories.... I used to throw both. The Xclone is more over stable. I remember when the cyclone was the best disc on the block!
When? Isn't it still? Just now in Esp.
RIGHT!
The Newer Versions of the Cyclone are different the the Old School runs.
Only because it is in ESP. It is the EXACT same mold. Read it "discraft cyclone, walled lake,mi"
I'm throwing a Pro-D one right now. I use it when I need a little more fade than my Teebird. Mostly on really long upshots; ones that are just under a driver's distance. I actually flip it, then it fades pretty hard.
Key disc of the day- without it I would not have cashed. Parked D (385'), 5 (365'), 17 (350')on Original Blue at Hudson Mills. Hit cage 370' on an upshot. Kept it up the gut on 3 other tough shots on the Monster side, and parked #11 Black. So straight it's absurd.
I have to agree with you ben. I throw it for almost everything 320-375ish. It is a phenomenal disc.
1st run 1 disc challenge only, or at least stiff and flat production run. i have 27 of the 1st runs now, lifetime supply

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