Disc dyeing help (can't stop the bleeding!!!)

I've been trying to dye discs lately using sign vinyl as a template but it seems that every time i get very bad bleeding. when i dye a disc i usually use star plastic or champion/z plastic and it's always a new disc,( no cuts or burrs) and i always make sure to squidgy the bubbles out and i'm using rit dye in a pan on low heat. is this crappy vinyl with bad adhesive? if anyone one out there has any suggestions as to what i might be doing wrong or could point me in the direction of some proven high quality vinyl that would be greatly appreciated.

[Bryce @ Treebangers Disc Golf]

I have not used nail polish remover, but IMO i think you might end up smudging the stamp color more than removing it. But i could be wrong, if you use it let me know how it works out.

Shawn Fitzwater said:

Ok so I wasn't able to make it to Lowe's in time. My wife has some finger nail polish remover. To my understanding and from what I've heard it's ok to use this correct? It just doesn't come off as "quick" as acetone but as long as it comes off is all that matters to me, I don't mind scrubbing for 5-10 minutes.

I just wanna do SOMETHING already! lol

[Travis]

this is cool guys, thanks for the help. i think i am headed in the right direction. i'm gonna do another dye here in the next week or so and i'll show it to ya'll when i'm done. hey, we should start a thread for people to show off their dye jobs!

[Jack Davis]

No I have not seen that brand at all, All I have ever used was either the 3M or Oracal. I don't have a lot of experience dyeing plastic buy I have been around sign vinyl for quite awhile and quality is everything with that stuff.

Travis said:

jack,
i picked up my vinyl at a local sign shop and it's called Gerbermask GSP. Are you familiar with this brand? also do you know where i could order some vinyl online, perhaps something that you have used or are certain will do the trick? i will be sure to clean my disc better, especially after using acetone, i think that might have been part of the problem.

Thanks again

Jack Davis said:

The quality of the vinyl make a great difference. Use only high quality vinyl such as 3M, Oracal, or Avery. And make sure you wash your disc in HOT water and soap before and after you use the Acetone. This first removes the mold residue and then removes the Acetone residue so that it will not harm the glue on the vinyl.

[Shawn Boucké]

where do you get the vinyl? I have everything else, but am missing that. I looked at Walmart, Menards, Joanns, and staples

[Travis]

check with a local sign shop. ask for 15" intermediate sign vinyl and some transfer tape.

Shawn Welling said:

where do you get the vinyl? I have everything else, but am missing that. I looked at Walmart, Menards, Joanns, and staples

[Jack Davis]

You wont find it in a WalMart or any place like that. On the web or try your local sign shop.

Shawn Welling said:

where do you get the vinyl? I have everything else, but am missing that. I looked at Walmart, Menards, Joanns, and staples

[Travis]

I found a local supplier that carries both oracal and avery. the avery is much more expensive so if you are happy with that oracal stuff i will try that. Thanks again.

Jack Davis said:

No I have not seen that brand at all, All I have ever used was either the 3M or Oracal. I don't have a lot of experience dyeing plastic buy I have been around sign vinyl for quite awhile and quality is everything with that stuff.

Travis said:

jack,
i picked up my vinyl at a local sign shop and it's called Gerbermask GSP. Are you familiar with this brand? also do you know where i could order some vinyl online, perhaps something that you have used or are certain will do the trick? i will be sure to clean my disc better, especially after using acetone, i think that might have been part of the problem.

Thanks again

Jack Davis said:

The quality of the vinyl make a great difference. Use only high quality vinyl such as 3M, Oracal, or Avery. And make sure you wash your disc in HOT water and soap before and after you use the Acetone. This first removes the mold residue and then removes the Acetone residue so that it will not harm the glue on the vinyl.

[Bryce @ Treebangers Disc Golf]

Contact paper works just as well and that you can get at walmart cheap. Its all I use

[Audi]

I use contact paper and put salt in with the dye. Not a lot just a dash

[rjn80]

Ive used Rit liquid and the powder with acetone and 100% alcohol. Acetone with Rit powder On Champion works really fast just painting it on, But the only thing you have to watch out for is that it will lift the glue on the vinyl but if you work quick it comes out good. The only thing with Rit is is that it is only like 10% Dye and the rest are fillers so it is as potent as some other Dyes that are on the market. I own a sign business and I can make stencils and Graphics So if anyone needs vinyl and other products Just let me know. Im experimenting with alot of products and trying to come up with a thick dye that i can paint on that will work quick. Ill let ya know what works best but if anyone else has any other information that would be great Thanks

[rjn80]

Stencils

[rjn80]

The Boss With Yamaha Logo Rit Dye