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Pissing match? all i see if friendly discussion
Why don't we come up with a formula everyone can live withand run the numbers, lets take the bias out of it.
all i see are little dribbles comin from your end so why don't you stroke up and give it some thrust? ha ha
i'd put in a good word on CO too, lots of long challenging courses in the denver-metro area alone and many more in the mountains, the south, the north, and east. bird's nest in jefferson county is a dune-style prairie course with scattered trees and water making for a really long, tough course. i love it, and it's one of my favorites.
the fact is the discussion isn't about to decisively choose one state that is the best. that's why it's a discussion, and the courses in the midwest that are mentioned, i'm sure are amazing courses that could stack up against ones in all areas of the u.s.
every place, every course, every hole is different and have their respective pros and cons, but who's to really say what is good and bad. all i know is that i've gotten to hear about courses across the nation that people enjoy, and that is certainly something of value. maybe i'll go to one of these courses when i'm the area just because i heard it in this discussion. maybe you will. or maybe a kid in indonesia will travel to america specifically to live out his disc golf dream in florida as a result of this thread.
so whistle a tune, give it some height, and let that stream flow. give the kid from indonesia some hope
You'd NEVER get everyone to agree on a formula. What's good climate? Bad climate? What's more important---the number of courses, the average quality of courses, or the quality of the top courses? Does the tournament scene matter a lot---or not at all?
And then you'd have to decide what's a "quality" course, or a good tournament scene.
No, I say let's debate---civilly---based on our own preferences!