Disc Identification Help Please

Ok, I have a few discs in my stash that I'm curious about. I have bought a few large lots of discs in the past and had some odd ducks come my way. Sorry, the pics are all posted out of order, #1 is at the bottom and they go in order to the top from there.

1) Clear/blue Worlds Biggest 05 CH Beast. It's marked BST but the wing has a different shape than my other newer Beasts. It rises up sharper towards the inside rim. Did Innova re-tool the mold or something?

2) Pink Chandler Tornado Open, I believe it is a Lightning by the raised grooves on the inside rim, but what kind of disc is it? Wing edge has a flat area towards the outside similar to a Cyclone it looks like.

3) I have three different Cyclones. The way different one is the black Halloween Hootennanny disc. This disc has a beveled top edge. I haven't seen any of these before. Was this the original Cyclone mold?

4) Yellow 97 World Am Championships Cyclone 2. What do these fly like compared to the others?

5) Blue Cyclone newer. Is this one any different than the Cyclone 2, besides the plastic?

One More entry

6) Sparkle DGA (I think) Steady ED Tourny Stamp, midrange of some kind

[Matt Jankowski]

The beveled top edge of the black Halloween disc looks an X-clone. When I used to throw a Cyclone 2, I remember it being much more stable than the standard Cyclone.

[Mike]

Ok, cause on the back all it says is Cyclone.

[beatz]

the beast was retooled. Those that throw the old mold swear by them.

[Matt Jankowski]

At one point I think Scott Stokley had the distance world record with both a Cyclone than later an X-clone.

Mike said:

Ok, cause on the back all it says is Cyclone.

[Scott Kickbusch]

Mike said:

Ok, cause on the back all it says is Cyclone.

The X-Clone was made from a broken Cyclone mold. It always said "Cyclone" in the tooling, but the black discs is an X-Clone.

[tick]

I agree with what Matt said - Xclone, and The Cyclone 2 is a bit more overstable than the Cyclone. The (discontinued) Cyclone 2 is not the same disc as the regular cyclone. Also, I believe there was some change in the wing of the Beast (and a few other champion plastic discs) in just about that time frame.

[Mike]

Do you know how they fly different?

beatz said:

the beast was retooled. Those that throw the old mold swear by them.

[Scott Kickbusch]

Stokely broke the record with an X-Clone and then broke his own record with an XL. Chris Max Voigt broke that record with an XS. Discraft had the distance record for a long time with those three throws.

Matt Jankowski said:

At one point I think Scott Stokley had the distance world record with both a Cyclone than later an X-clone.

Mike said:

Ok, cause on the back all it says is Cyclone.

[Mike]

Great info so far. Thanks guys!

[Scott Kickbusch]

The old mold was deemed too similar to an Orc and was retooled to be less stable. It was in-between an Orc and an SL. Why Innova of all companies would change a disc just because it was very similar to another disc is beyond me. There is so much overlap in the Innova line-up, it makes you wonder how they even noticed.

Mike said:

Do you know how they fly different?

beatz said:

the beast was retooled. Those that throw the old mold swear by them.

[Scott Kickbusch]

Ditto on the Cyclone 2. It was a different disc from the Cyclone, more overstable. From least to most overstable they went Cyclone-Cyclone 2-X-Clone.

tick said:

I agree with what Matt said - Xclone, and The Cyclone 2 is a bit more overstable than the Cyclone. The (discontinued) Cyclone 2 is not the same disc as the regular cyclone. Also, I believe there was some change in the wing of the Beast (and a few other champion plastic discs) in just about that time frame.

[Terry Sink]

there were many different runs of the beast when it was first made. the very first champion beast actually says pro line beast, pre champion plastic. then they made the champion beast right after that, before barry got his name on it, these beast are pretty gummy, very flat, and a little more stable than the barry beasts'. after barry won the world championship they put his name on it(Barry Shultz 1x Beast, these are very gummy once broken in). in my opinion these are the best beats made. after that they made the 2x Barry beast witch is much less stable and a little more dommy than the original mold. Buy em if you like em b/c they are getting harder to find every day. also the beast you have looks like a 2x, hope that helps

Mike said:

Do you know how they fly different?

beatz said:

the beast was retooled. Those that throw the old mold swear by them.