I got my discs and played 3 rounds yesterday. The Stalker is a nice disc, it flies flat and is really longer than a fairway driver. I can throw it almost as far as my longest driver. With a little anhyzer it does a nice S curve and glides well. I am more impressed with the Ringer. It is a great approach disc and a good putter. I used it for most of my shots under 250 feet and it is very easy to control. I can hyzer it, anhyzer it and throw it flat, and where I want it to go. Get them both.