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Needs to up their quality. I am on my second Fade Gear Crunch Box bag. It is a very nice smaller bag that holds everything that I carry. I had been using a mountain bike bag before so switching to a dedicated disc golf bag was great.
I did start noticing that the wear on the bag was less than ideal. The nylon started to get holes in it almost immediately on the bottom of the bag where it contacts the ground. Now one could just Plasti-dip the bottom of the bag and that would be a decent cure for that. My first bag actually had a few duct tape patches on it. But the feet are also flimsy as there is no real support for them in the bottom of the bag (there needs to be some sort of reinforcement there. The bag also suffers from plastic clips that are used to hold the strap to the bag that can come apart quite easily and then you need to get a zip tie to fix that issue or simply suffer with no strap. Carabiners eventually took their place.
Now I am onto my second bag knowing full well the shortcomings of the first bag. However, this time my bag has now developed a major seam rip where the side pocket attaches to the main part of the bag. It seems that the pocket is only a three quarter pocket and shares one "wall" with the main part of the bag. So needless to say I was more than surprised when I saw a few days ago that it was completely torn at the seam and all of my stuff was at risk for just falling out. Thankfully it didn't but now in order to use the bag I had to apply a huge duct tape patch and hope for the best. I'm not sure if they warranty this stuff but the quality is lacking and I may have to just switch my bag to something else. Still, I wish I didn't have to do that as I think that the Crunch Box is just right for me. Oh well.
I just contacted Fade Gear about this issue. The bag pretty much sucks without the main pocket being able to be used. Will see how they respond. I am going to let them know about the quality issues so maybe they can fix things in the future (if they want to do that).
Maybe I just need to get an Innova bag and be done with it. They seem to have better quality. I could handle the wear on the bottom of the bag but a ripped pocket is too much. Duct tape only works for so long and I doubt that it could be sewn together.
I have seen this New style Backpack lately used by some players.
I did get an email back from Fade Gear and they want me to take pictures of the problem area. Still I will have to send the bag in to them if I want a replacement which will mean that I will be without a bag for a while. Not sure if that is worth it only to get another bag that will have the same problems. Will see what I want to do.
I have a "crunch box" and I really like the size. Mine is about 3 years old and it is showing normal wear, but is nearing the end with broken zippers and holes in the bottom. I think the quality went downhill since I bought mine. I am seeing many folks that have Fade Gear bags at my local course complaining about rips and tears in the crunch box and the Tournament bags that are less than a year old.
When I bought my crunch box, I knew it was a balance between high quality and price. The crunch box seemed like a good value for the price.
I now have a Voodoo "Mojo" and the degree of quality is night/day compared to fade gear. The price is higher, but I think you get what you pay for. The "Mojo" is only slightly larger that the crunch box and for me is actually the perfect size. I know there are many bags out there, but the "Mojo" offers excellent quality and the size is perfect.
Anytime you can keep your bag off the ground, the better. I use a cart sometimes and the bag never hits the ground.
I've had a Fade tournament bag for 3-4 years now and it's pretty much like new still. That's including about 12 tournaments a year and probably 4-5 rounds a week plus practice during the regular season, I don't play in the winter.
I have to agree with your assessment. The Crunch Box is a decent bag, not the best quality but it should last a couple of years. However, the second Crunch Box appears to be of poorer quality than the first. I'm thinking that it's not really worth the expense to send it in for a replacement. I used duct tape to "repair" the torn seam and will just keep using it until it breaks completely or I find something better. The Voodoo Juju looks nice at $65. Still that's almost twice what I paid for the Crunch Box. But you get what you pay for.
Disc Golf bags are an issue.
As a maker (the disc player bag) with experience in this end,
Here is my opinion:
1 You get what you pay for.
Is there a warranty?
If not, don't shell out the money.
If the manufacturer stands up to their product they will replace it at their cost.
2 How much do you play disc golf?
2-3 rounds a week?
The more, the better equipment you need.
Now if you consider what Fade has brought to disc golf, then they have accomplished something.
They provide 'beginner' disc golf bags... and sell a lot because of price.
It is possible, because they are made overseas at low cost.
I would as a purchaser not expect the bag to last as long as i would like.
First materials, type of nylon, amount of stitches, etc are what to look at first.
Design is one thing, notice how all new cars tend to look alike.
No one manufacturer has the 'design' despite what they market.
As a manufacturer view, pick the bag that fits your needs.
At dps, we are done with "China" manufacturing.
Too much money upfront, (go buy a car (cash)) and too much inconsistency.
Considering, producing "made to order" models.
Tell us what you think.
My first bag was an old backpack that I got from a secondhand store for less than 5 bucks. It lasted me over 4 years of daily use and was very comfortable to carry. The backpack style was similar to what is now being manufactured for the disc golf world. I threw the old backpack bag away when I bought my first "Fade" crunchbox for $39.00. Even for that cheap price I could have bought six used backpacks at the secondhand store.
My point is this; A bag is a bag, it does nothing to improve play. A $300.00 bag is no better than a $5.00 bag at carrying plastic discs, it is strictly a matter of preference and comfort.
Case in point is that a high-end backpack designed for hiking can be purchased for well under a hundred bucks and will carry most anything you need for hiking with utmost comfort. These bags will last for years.
In contrast a high-end backpack disc golf bag will cost over $250.00 bucks, Go figure?
I have fallen prey to the bag manufacturers myself and paid good money for several bags. I like them and I can afford to buy them, but I believe all disc golf bags are over priced.
Someone with sewing skills could make a fortune by buying old back packs from a secondhand store and modifying them to accommodate carrying discs.
It's just like any other sport (baseball, soccer, football, skiing, etc.) equipment is required and is generally overpriced. The great thing about disc golfers is that many of us pride ourselves in creating our own innovative solutions. If the bag manufacturers continue to keep their prices artificially high and quality low, the company will not last long.
Was looking and have been for years looking at back packs.
Oakley (expensive) makes awesome backpacks for big $s.
Also make golf bags (the other sport) for reasonable prices.
Now you have choice, yes choice.
If you are first starting out, what do you use?
A shopping bag, cooler, backpack..... the way it usually happens.
The more you play the better or designed specifically for the sport items.
This is natural.
Everyone that owns a car, has choice what to buy.... not always the money to do so.
Mercedes, BMW, VW, Honda, Chevy, Nissan........
There are options and ways to get the vehicle you want. You can always buy a used high end one...
but that's a different story.
Now when someone purchases an expensive product, a $250 disc golf bag, expect the best.
Expect, a lifetime warranty, quality materials, stitching and design.
However, an inexpensive product $39.99 or less?
What do you expect?
Personally would not purchase a disc golf bag for $250, I know better.
And would not sell one for that price either.
But understand the disc golf marketplace, or general demographic.
Most want something that does not cost a lot.
You understandingly can not sell a $250 priced product for $40?
NEED to make a profit.
Fade has it's market share, because of price.
Know many a disc golf retailer that used to carry Revo bags... only for a short time.
They too were a decent product, but expensive.
Go to any disc golf retailer, and see what they are selling the most, FADE, because they sell.
Price not quality sells these bags.
Disc golf retail is a "Hey look here, I can sell it cheaper than that guy" right now.
And don't see much change.
Until disc golf gets out of the disc golf charity (tournaments have to produce income) the sport will always be cheap.
Saw a guy use one of these yesterday at the course: