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Are all Star Stamped Bosses and Grooves first-runs? Or are there other runs with the big star stamp?
Just wondered. Also they seem to be worth more. Or at least selling for more.

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There are not prototype discs, they are first run discs.

Daniel Mowery said:
the first run star stamp disc are prototype disc and they seem to be more understable than the regular ones to me
I think you must have beat Mike up in a past life, WOW

Donny Olow said:
OK , to answer the question on Stamps.

Not all First Run INNOVA discs have a Large Star Stamp. I know because I have different runs of First Runs with Smaller Star Stamps. Other First runs don't have a Star stamp , but a Club Test Stamp !!!!

The Boss and the Groove and the X-Caliber did have the Larger Star stamps in First runs though.

Sorry about that Mike if you, for some reason are upset with me. I'm a INNOVA guy !!!!! That might be it !!!! Oh , are you AM or Pro ? Don't get mad , just asking.
No wrath here, what a coincidence, I could care less about your opinion or an apology. :) Please stop posting your useless comments about his useless commments, this makes no sense and is annoying.

Mike said:
Friends have differances of opinion at times also. Btw, he deleted a comment that he had previously posted that was un-friendly, so I don't deserve your wrath, you are only getting the side of the story he wants you to see. I could really care less what you feel, nothing I said was that bad and was all true I won't apologize for it.
Thanks for this information Bruce! Also I think the "big star stamp" is often referred to as the Proto or prototype stamp.

Bruce Brakel said:
All of the big star stamped Bosses and Grooves are First Runs. Some of the Feldberg stamped Bosses are also First Runs. Innova was selling Bosses faster than they could make them, so when they switched from stamping the Bosses with the Stars to stamping the with the Feldberg signature there was no pause or break in the manufacturing process and no tweaking of the manufacturing process.

A lot of first run Innova discs have had the big star. I have no idea which ones. I have not paid attention. Pigs, for sure.
Freedom of speech guy, you know you don't have to read a post if it annoys you and you certainly don't have to reply to it, that's on you. I simply stated in the first place that his response just didn't answer the question that was asked. I guess I should have put an "LOL" after it to make it more acceptable like the other one. I didn't realize there was such thin skin in here. I have some tissues on my page if you need them. LOL just kidding I am probably one of the most reasonable people you will ever meet, some people just like to blow comments out of proportion.

Birdie-man said:
No wrath here, what a coincidence, I could care less about your opinion or an apology. :) Please stop posting your useless comments about his useless commments, this makes no sense and is annoying.

Mike said:
Friends have differances of opinion at times also. Btw, he deleted a comment that he had previously posted that was un-friendly, so I don't deserve your wrath, you are only getting the side of the story he wants you to see. I could really care less what you feel, nothing I said was that bad and was all true I won't apologize for it.
Ok, back to the relevant posts. Isn't the definition of a prototype a disc that has not yet been approved by the PDGA. Similiar to like the Discraft Ace Race discs that are not approved, named yet, and not for sure going into production. I know the discraft prototypes are usually just stamped with the Discraft logo or are sometimes not stamped at all. I have heard the Innova star stamps called Proto Stars, but that seems to be their main mark for their first runs, where as Discraft discs actually say First Run on the stamp.
LOL
My understanding is that (1) all big star stamped innnova discs are first runs, and (2) the big star stamp is only used for first runs and nothing else.

Also, the big star stamp is sometimes referred to as a "proto stamp" but they are first (mass produced) runs, whereas an actual prototype is more of a trial disc produced in very small quantities mainly for testing, flight analysis, etc.

----feel free to correct me if i'm wrong
I don't believe that, I know that. Name the last Innova released a prototype? They are first runs, Innova is too stuck up for that, lol. Yes that's right I said too stuck up to release their prototypes, maybe you can say picking.

Discraft does sometimes, Gateway a lot, Innova never seen a prototype Innova disc

Daniel Mowery said:
aiight you believe that then

PoeticLogic said:
There are not prototype discs, they are first run discs.

Daniel Mowery said:
the first run star stamp disc are prototype disc and they seem to be more understable than the regular ones to me
That's cause Discraft kickass! Nice and easy, like the answer is right in front of you. That's the Discraft way.

Mike said:
Ok, back to the relevant posts. Isn't the definition of a prototype a disc that has not yet been approved by the PDGA. Similiar to like the Discraft Ace Race discs that are not approved, named yet, and not for sure going into production. I know the discraft prototypes are usually just stamped with the Discraft logo or are sometimes not stamped at all. I have heard the Innova star stamps called Proto Stars, but that seems to be their main mark for their first runs, where as Discraft discs actually say First Run on the stamp.
I rest my case. This guy speaks the truth. The other guy claiming they are on so called prototype of discs for Innova that nobody gets their hands on other then Innova pros is smoking some shit and needs to pass it!!!

Josh Taylor said:
My understanding is that (1) all big star stamped innnova discs are first runs, and (2) the big star stamp is only used for first runs and nothing else.

Also, the big star stamp is sometimes referred to as a "proto stamp" but they are first (mass produced) runs, whereas an actual prototype is more of a trial disc produced in very small quantities mainly for testing, flight analysis, etc.

----feel free to correct me if i'm wrong
to my knowledge this is accurate but not just the large star but the "proto"star in any size, placement and design.. innova also somtimes releases first runs with a normal stamp but normally has the words first run stamped on it. i.e. the star cro,and 150 class star t-birds from a couple years ago. discrafts have first run on the disc as far as i know (i only own one).

please correct me if i'm wrong



h Taylor said:
My understanding is that (1) all big star stamped innnova discs are first runs, and (2) the big star stamp is only used for first runs and nothing else.

Also, the big star stamp is sometimes referred to as a "proto stamp" but they are first (mass produced) runs, whereas an actual prototype is more of a trial disc produced in very small quantities mainly for testing, flight analysis, etc.

----feel free to correct me if i'm wrong

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