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alright i wanted to see if anybody else is on the same page as me.i love gateway putters! but the ones i have are sss and evolution plastic, and i love the evolution plastic maybe more then anything but CE maybe EVEN CE. but the more i get into their mids and drivers i realize that i hate their base plastic (don't know what its called)! its awful i hit the basket with this illusion i got for free and it DENTED the edge, what a piece of shit! i looked at a buddies illusion he got a while ago and it is their base plastic and it is so warped! mine is domey but his is literally flat! and not just the flight plane but from edge to edge! anyone else noticed that their base plastic is totally inferior and their "premium" plastic might be the best on the market?

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Hmm I think the opposite. I think they have the worst premium plastic, and the best baseline.(Which is called S by the way.) I could have some weird ones though.
Yeah the S plastic is just about equal too DX plastic, made for beginners.
However the E plastic is near indestructible. Try screwing up an E Blast DT. I use them for Hook Thumbers because it doesn't really matter how hard or how many times it slams a tree. It will still fly the way it was made. I'm a big fan of gateway, and not just their putters. I love their Mid's and Drivers as well!!
It is in my opinion that Gateway Putters...lead the field! No If's, And's or Putt's about it.
I have had the same experience with all of the less expensive plastic, from all manufacturers. D, DX, S (sure-grip). Gateways S is not worse than any of the others. I've found that it is sometimes related to a run of discs as much as anything.

I tried the Discraft D Drone when it first came out and the very first day threw a drive that hit a tree and the disc got a quarter size chunk taken out of it. I've had some DX discs that were very soft and they too got chewed up after a round or two. I think it all depends on the BATCH of D/DX/S you buy.

Years ago, I bought a Sure-Grip S Gateway Saber while in St Louis. I got a bunch of discs from the Gateway shop to try out. The very first throw with the S Saber I smacked a tree and got a huge dent, and tacoed the disc. That really turned me off to Gateway S plastic. Now, years later, I'm throwing mostly Gateway discs clear/opaque E plastic. However, all but one of my putters (clear E Wizard) are S plastic and they seem to be holding up really well. I've been throwing them all winter and no dings. It's not called Sure-Grip for nothing.

I carry S/E putters, S/E mids, E drivers. The S I am using now is holding up very well compared to the older S plastic Gateway made. The new S Warriors I have are very good for low end plastic and I've been beating the hell out of them.

Someone said they didn't like Gateways premium plastic. Maybe they haven't tried the new clear E. I love the new clear-opaque E ... it's really good. And this is coming from someone who loves Innova Champion plastic.

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I use all types of plastics, because you want some to be broken in and others to hold their form.
Also consider that different types of plastics grip differently in varied weather conditions.....

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