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Can I get a yes or no on the new guy in town ???? Does anyone even have one? A guy that's sponsored by INNOVA was @ our local tourn. in Delaware and he had one last weekend w/ no stamp but he would'nt throw it.

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I guess, I am very fortunate. I ended up with a test champ groove, have been throwing the star grooves and lke them and just bought three champ grooves.
yuo can get them online now one site has the orange and black for 24.00
Got a Eco-Star 171... LOVE IT!!! If you like the Destroyer your love this!
dude, the groove is simply amazing!!!! with a slight hyzer-flip it as straight as an arrow, fast, and long! thrown level it as an impossibly slight turn but is still straight fast and long! holds a great anhyzer line, and can be thrown very effectively back hand, fore hand, or even tomahawk! this disk has an impossibly unnaturaly long glide that is simply amazing to watch. throwing this disk is effortless, long distance is easy and comfortably reached with the groove, in like the boss or force.
hope this helps!
Rick said:
Got a Eco-Star 171... LOVE IT!!! If you like the Destroyer your love this!

So what's the difference between Star and EcoStar plastic, physically and performance-wise?
i thought the star eco plastic was closer to champion, not star. the only real diff. ive noticed ist the 'star eco' stamp, and that the plastic is completely see through, almost as if it would glow under black light. also that the star eco plastic actually seem less dense and lighter when compared to others of the same weight.
Still waiting to throw any Groove !!!
Groove in the mail...can't wait to get it!

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