Has anyone seen this New Buzzz on ebay

looks frickin' sweat, just the way the plastic looks makes it look like a first run

[Mike]

That shouldn't make a difference. More material= less transparent. Heavy fog hard to see through, light fog easy to see through. It is all light diffusion. Unless you are looking at a cryztal plastic or somthing like that.

[Peter Kunoff]

IMO opacity vs. clarity of discraft Z plastic has more to due with that individual disc's plastic mix than weight as I have lots of clear and opaque discraft Z discs

[Mike]

For sure plastic mix does matter, as well as slight defects when molding such as a thing called "Splay" which can happen if there is any moisture in the material. If the material is stored outside in a scilo where the temp is low and then conveyed into a warm building. This creates condensation on the pellets and they begin to sweat. Now, most companies use air diffusers in the machine hoppers to help dry the pettets and heat them up, but it is still possible to get condensation. Splay, leaves a marbled white/silver looking pattern around the injection gate area most commonly, but I have noticed it on some of both major companies discs across the flight plates because they are so thin. Many factors in Injection molding, a lot of common problems that any plastic manufacturing facility faces, I don't care what your name is.

Peter Kunoff said:

IMO opacity vs. clarity of discraft Z plastic has more to due with that individual disc's plastic mix than weight as I have lots of clear and opaque discraft Z discs

[Evan]

mike couldn't maybe the flight plate on one of the discs be thinner then the other one making it possibly look a little more transparent? by the way i don't know if you've been out to northend but i lost my wildcat last week, damn
Mike said:

For sure plastic mix does matter, as well as slight defects when molding such as a thing called "Splay" which can happen if there is any moisture in the material. If the material is stored outside in a scilo where the temp is low and then conveyed into a warm building. This creates condensation on the pellets and they begin to sweat. Now, most companies use air diffusers in the machine hoppers to help dry the pettets and heat them up, but it is still possible to get condensation. Splay, leaves a marbled white/silver looking pattern around the injection gate area most commonly, but I have noticed it on some of both major companies discs across the flight plates because they are so thin. Many factors in Injection molding, a lot of common problems that any plastic manufacturing facility faces, I don't care what your name is.

Peter Kunoff said:

IMO opacity vs. clarity of discraft Z plastic has more to due with that individual disc's plastic mix than weight as I have lots of clear and opaque discraft Z discs

[Mike]

Yes Evan, it sure can. I have spent many hours in the plastics processing lab here at Ferris and I just know from experience that more material means the part is less transparent unless you are using very high performance grade material. Another example: take one Ziplock bag and look through it now put another one on top of it and look through them both, less transparent. Even when we do blown film extrusion and set the die to make the profile thicker, we get a more opaque looking film.

And as for your Wildcat, I haven't seen it. I will let everyone I know about it. What color? If your name and # were on it you should be getting it back. I haven't seen any tracks really out there besides mine and RC's.

Evan said:

mike couldn't maybe the flight plate on one of the discs be thinner then the other one making it possibly look a little more transparent? by the way i don't know if you've been out to northend but i lost my wildcat last week, damn
Mike said:

For sure plastic mix does matter, as well as slight defects when molding such as a thing called "Splay" which can happen if there is any moisture in the material. If the material is stored outside in a scilo where the temp is low and then conveyed into a warm building. This creates condensation on the pellets and they begin to sweat. Now, most companies use air diffusers in the machine hoppers to help dry the pettets and heat them up, but it is still possible to get condensation. Splay, leaves a marbled white/silver looking pattern around the injection gate area most commonly, but I have noticed it on some of both major companies discs across the flight plates because they are so thin. Many factors in Injection molding, a lot of common problems that any plastic manufacturing facility faces, I don't care what your name is.

Peter Kunoff said:

IMO opacity vs. clarity of discraft Z plastic has more to due with that individual disc's plastic mix than weight as I have lots of clear and opaque discraft Z discs