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Via tournaments? I'm thinking about quitting my day job.

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Thanks for inside scoop Avery - cool that you can enjoy your day and weekend job.

This sport is definitely growing but I agree with the participation/spectator angle of it - it is so much fun to play that I would rather throw a few holes behind a finishing tournament than watch since I'm lucky to get out and play maybe once a week. But I'll come watch the pros if they come to Steilacoom-Tacoma again.

Avery Jenkins said:
Lotto said:
Pat Burke said:
Dont quit your day job until you see a letter from nike in the mail wanting you to sign endorsements! I see somebody wrote Avery made $31,940 last year! try to figure out how much he spent on travels, food, gas, etc... cost of tourneys his sponsor probably pays that ish! but you know what I am saying, not to mention good luck beating him he is a beast!

im willing to bet that sponsers pay for most of that, if not all.

Our Sponsors actually pay us pretty well as far as bonuses go. These bonuses are considered to be used on such things as food, gas and other travel expenses throughout the tour season.

But you right by saying that currently very few players can actually make a living at this sport due to the high competitive level. Eventhough I have been doing this for a living for the past 8 years now and I don't plan on quitting anytime soon.

So an answer to the question is: I make enough playing this year in and year out to get back out there following season and do it all over again. Because I truly love this game and will do everything possible to increase its popularity as a sport.
If you read most pro's bios you'll see they almost all have legitimate day jobs... it's a fun sport but don't expect it to ever pay the bills.
I would beg to differ. I have been playing Disc Golf Tournaments as my only form of income for the past 8 years and I don't have any trouble making from day to day. Its my life right now.

Terry "the Pirate" Calhoun said:
Not enough to live on.
Mr. Jenkins, Avery if you will. I think I can honestly say that you are my, and all of my friends', superhero. Good luck on tour in 2009.

Avery Jenkins said:
I would beg to differ. I have been playing Disc Golf Tournaments as my only form of income for the past 8 years and I don't have any trouble making from day to day. Its my life right now.

Terry "the Pirate" Calhoun said:
Not enough to live on.
Wow, those guys make so much money, they could retire from it....

Red Line Disc Golf said:
Like every one else has said keep in mind that the following information did not take into account: travel expenses, food, equipment, maintenance bills (hospitalization, medication, etc.) as well as additional sponsorships from which they may receive money or gear. Also keep in mind these totals are gross pre tax totals so once uncle sam takes his cut the numbers will be less.

Points leaders: Pro Open players top 50 According to PDGA tour statistics published 2008

Name PDGA# Events State Country Points Cash Rating

Avery Jenkins 7495 28 OR USA 20258 $ 31940 1028
David Feldberg 12626 26 OR USA 18663 $ 36854 1039
Eric McCabe 11674 33 KS USA 17688 $ 28519 1029
Barry Schultz 6840 24 WI USA 15608 $ 21686 1031
Jay Yeti Reading 15864 30 IA USA 14830 $ 11629 1011
Geoff Bennett 24962 54 MI USA 14638 $ 16904 1015
Nathan Doss 11794 13 CA USA 14440 $ 26545 1036
Cale Leiviska 24341 23 MN USA 13255 $ 13818 1022
Steve Brinster 10628 20 NJ USA 12910 $ 9433 1020
Paul McBeth 27523 29 CA USA 12728 $ 11603 1018
Chris Sprague 16425 35 IL USA 11758 $ 10775 1011
Will Schusterick 29064 32 TN USA 11643 $ 10143 1002
Nikko Locastro 11534 24 MO USA 11543 $ 12948 1024
Steven Rico 4666 20 CA USA 11345 $ 15825 1030
Adam Olsen 26100 34 IA USA 10698 $ 10220 1009
Matt Orum 18330 14 AL USA 10645 $ 12453 1028
Kris Orrick 20020 24 TN USA 10613 $ 11062 1014
Nathan Sexton 18824 26 OR USA 10430 $ 9670 1017
Gregg Barsby 15857 19 CA USA 10235 $ 7749 1006
Markus Källström13150 12 PA USA 10020 $ 8597 1034
Paul Ulibarri 27171 25 AZ USA 9788 $ 6739 1005
Josh Anthon 17946 13 CA USA 9750 $ 9280 1029
George R. Smith 4034 19 MO USA 9180 $ 6935 1016
Kevin McCoy 9453 23 GA USA 8980 $ 8126 1008
Karl Johan Hoj Nybo 28903 14 Denmark 8773 $ 5913 1009
Robbie Bratten 21541 24 TX USA 8470 $ 4397 996
Coda Hatfield 23651 31 OK USA 8135 $ 9743 1016
Ville Piippo 27555 17 Finland 8123 $ 6267 1015
Jalle Stoor 8992 15 Finland 7825 $ 2603 995
Christian Dietrich 27984 16 MT USA 7663 $ 6869 1011
Jeff Layland 17682 26 CO USA 7620 $ 4947 995
Espen Møkkelgjerd 17666 11 Norway 7573 $ 3976 1006
Garrett Gurthie 13864 19 FL USA 7435 $ 6139 1019
Patrick Blazek 25325 22 NV USA 7365 $ 4124 994
Matthew Blakely 15410 19 OH USA 7043 $ 5799 1008
Anders Kallstrom 13175 10 Sweden 6955 $ 1832 997
Jesse Heinonen 30940 9 Finland 6873 $ 1996 1001
Linus Åström 26586 11 Sweden 6858 $ 715 984
Brian Schweberger 12989 24 NC USA 6818 $ 11495 1025
Philo Brathwaite 26416 14 CA USA 6783 $ 4320 1010
Manabu Kajiyama 8139 12 Japan 6655 $ 6771 1010
Kim Scott-wood 19777 14 ON Canada 6650 $ 5349 1008
Brad Schick 7992 25 OH USA 6598 $ 9872 1017
Karl Arnby 8961 8 Sweden 6588 $ 3396 1011
Tyler Horne 16058 30 OH USA 6533 $ 5913 995
Ken Franks 25447 18 CA USA 6510 $ 4389 1003
Bill Themm 18967 20 MI USA 6440 $ 3812 1000
Emil Dahlgren 29048 8 Sweden 6370 $ 2987 1002
Kyle Crabtree 25596 16 CA USA 6330 $ 4083 1009
Mats-Åke Öberg 16995 11 Sweden 6285 $ 2006 991
Wow, Stevie Rico in the house.

Stevie, If a pink Magnet was thrown into a brick wall, do you play from the biggest chunk of brick?

Steve Rico said:
Wow, those guys make so much money, they could retire from it....
/body>
I probably should have said "to make a lifetime living at."

I did not know that you were completely supported by disc golf Avery. I hope very much that you can make a lifetime living at it and I hope you know I am thrilled that you are making a living at it. A lot of what I do has as part of its mission to help disc golf move to where a lot of people can make a lifetime living connected to what they enjoy so much.

Avery Jenkins said:
I would beg to differ. I have been playing Disc Golf Tournaments as my only form of income for the past 8 years and I don't have any trouble making from day to day. Its my life right now.

Terry "the Pirate" Calhoun said:
Not enough to live on.
Same list sorted by monies won from most ($38,929) to cutoff ($10,000+):

Name PDGA# Events State/Prov Country Points Cash
David Feldberg 12626 28 OR USA 18760 $ 38929
Avery Jenkins 7495 31 OR USA 20573 $ 33610
Eric McCabe 11674 36 KS USA 18018 $ 30019
Nathan Doss 11794 14 CA USA 14440 $ 27545
Barry Schultz 6840 26 WI USA 15720 $ 22786
Geoff Bennett 24962 60 MI USA 15305 $ 18317
Steven Rico 4666 21 CA USA 11345 $ 16275
Cale Leiviska 24341 25 MN USA 13340 $ 14368
Ken Climo 4297 16 FL USA 14285 $ 13852
Nikko Locastro 11534 26 MO USA 11700 $ 13848
Brian Schweberger 12989 26 NC USA 7058 $ 12753
Matt Orum 18330 14 AL USA 10645 $ 12453
Kris Orrick 20020 25 TN USA 10740 $ 11962
Paul McBeth 27523 30 CA USA 12728 $ 11853
Jay Yeti Reading 15864 31 TX USA 14865 $ 11674
Will Schusterick 29064 33 TN USA 11770 $ 11043
Chris Sprague 16425 35 IL USA 11758 $ 10775
Brad Schick 7992 27 OH USA 6778 $ 10527
Coda Hatfield 23651 33 OK USA 8420 $ 10253
Adam Olsen 26100 34 IA USA 10698 $ 10220

This list is just PDGA monies won. Gross amount (pre Uncle Sam). This does not reflect any sponsorship bonus money, which all of these guys qualify for.

I'm sure Steve Rico can enlighten everyone by reminding us how expensive it can be in Southern California.

However, if you're doing what you love and love what you do, you can't put a price on it! More power to 'em!
It would be great to think that Innova and Discraft are giving these top 30 players some bonus monies somewheres between 30 to 100k each for putting the disc golf dream out there ......... nike, calloway, etc etc are paying their stable of ball golfers up to 25 million a year to promote their wares ......... if the disc golf manufacturers aren't pouring big cash money into the purses then hopefully they're doing it at the front end. The PDGA has done a poor job of making disc golf a professional recognizable sport. The manufacturers seem equally poor at promoting the game to the masses.
If the manufacturers were paying big bonuses then discs would cost a lot more. A new driver by Calloway costs $300. A new driver by Discraft costs $20.

For a new player to start the game of disc golf and play regularly for a year, equipment and greens fees included, it might cost a couple hundred bucks. What would it cost in ball golf?

Disc golf is a poor sport because there is so little profit to be made in it. We play for free. Our equipment is close to free. When little money comes in little money goes out.

Nike and Calloway do not spend money to be charitable. They do it to generate profits. Companies do not sponsor ball golf tournaments because they love the players, they do so for advertising, seeking profits.

I shudder to think what the reaction of a disc golf manufacturer might be when reading the post quoted below. I think the manufacturers have shown admirable effort and generosity in sponsoring tournaments and players. If their efforts are not appreciated then why should they bother?

Tournament players are a small slice of all disc golfers. Disc golf manufacturers can promote the sport without promoting tournaments or players. Look at Lightening. If manufacturers did nothing more than put new disc golf courses in the ground they would reap better profits than they do today.

It may be tough to make a living as a disc golfer. It would be a lot tougher without the sponsorship benefits the manufacturers provide.

Boom Boom Dino said:
It would be great to think that Innova and Discraft are giving these top 30 players some bonus monies somewheres between 30 to 100k each for putting the disc golf dream out there ......... nike, calloway, etc etc are paying their stable of ball golfers up to 25 million a year to promote their wares ......... if the disc golf manufacturers aren't pouring big cash money into the purses then hopefully they're doing it at the front end. The PDGA has done a poor job of making disc golf a professional recognizable sport. The manufacturers seem equally poor at promoting the game to the masses.
I'd say if the manufacturers wanted to make this sport jump then put up a million bucks a year and have some real showdowns, get it on tv, make the sport grow. It's in their best interest to make it happen ..... it's been in their hands all along ........ they should ante up ......... line their own pockets and promote the game. They need to be inventive and think outside of the box ........... dream big and make it happen.

mark ellis said:
If the manufacturers were paying big bonuses then discs would cost a lot more. A new driver by Calloway costs $300. A new driver by Discraft costs $20.

For a new player to start the game of disc golf and play regularly for a year, equipment and greens fees included, it might cost a couple hundred bucks. What would it cost in ball golf?

Disc golf is a poor sport because there is so little profit to be made in it. We play for free. Our equipment is close to free. When little money comes in little money goes out.

Nike and Calloway do not spend money to be charitable. They do it to generate profits. Companies do not sponsor ball golf tournaments because they love the players, they do so for advertising, seeking profits.

I shudder to think what the reaction of a disc golf manufacturer might be when reading the post quoted below. I think the manufacturers have shown admirable effort and generosity in sponsoring tournaments and players. If their efforts are not appreciated then why should they bother?

Tournament players are a small slice of all disc golfers. Disc golf manufacturers can promote the sport without promoting tournaments or players. Look at Lightening. If manufacturers did nothing more than put new disc golf courses in the ground they would reap better profits than they do today.

It may be tough to make a living as a disc golfer. It would be a lot tougher without the sponsorship benefits the manufacturers provide.

Boom Boom Dino said:
It would be great to think that Innova and Discraft are giving these top 30 players some bonus monies somewheres between 30 to 100k each for putting the disc golf dream out there ......... nike, calloway, etc etc are paying their stable of ball golfers up to 25 million a year to promote their wares ......... if the disc golf manufacturers aren't pouring big cash money into the purses then hopefully they're doing it at the front end. The PDGA has done a poor job of making disc golf a professional recognizable sport. The manufacturers seem equally poor at promoting the game to the masses.
The manufacturers seem to go big when mixing every new type of plastic they can make to intice all to buy new product.
Lot's of money spent there. I'm sure they're making lots of moola. To reinvest into marketing the game and not just discs maybe bettter for them long term. Start smaller but put up bigger dough for the NT series and garner some excitement is all I'm saying.

Mark Stephens said:
And if that fails go out of business. Sounds like a WONDERFUL plan.

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