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Should the PDGA limit how many divisions you can skip according to your rating? I play up one division up, I'm rated 925 and play advanced. We have a guy that is a 884 that plays in the advanced division. It sounds harmless until he's on your card the first round.I don't want to play with rec. players in the advanced division, like the pro's don't want to play with intermediate players in the pro division. What is the point of the player ratings if you can play any division you want.You can't play down two divisions, why can you play up?

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Play to where you skill level is at !!! When you get better , you will know it's time to move up !!
I would assume you had to start somewhere, or did you come in to advanced with a lower rating like junior did and piss off people that were better than you? When you decide to move up again, there you are, the new guy in the division who is gonna suck it up for a couple rounds. Let it go man. Pro atheletes jump up as far as they want if they are good enough, as long as you meet some criteria.....which anymore is nothing more than age. If you can go in the titty bar then you can jump up.

Discgolf is great, rec or tourneys. If a guy on my card isnt throwing well then I encourage him to play more and I offer him techniques. It wouldnt be fair to scoul and call him a douche-bag because he sucks. Thats arrogance. None of us were Gods gift to discgolf and we all have had to take our steps, some baby and for some others their steps were bigger.

With all that said, I know it can be hard to get into a groove when someone on your card is constantly holding you up because he is in the trees or some shit, thats a part of the GAME! Its all about controlling your emotions and staying focused on the task at hand, which is to win. What goes around comes around, maybe if you jump to pro you will be in juniors seat, and thats probably not much fun but hey, Im up for a good challenge too. The better the players are around me, the better I play.

Take it easy on junior, he is trying.......Im sure of that.
Help me understand. Since I haven't played tournament and would start at the lowest level when I do play in them, I don't have the experience of playing with either higher or lower rated players. Can you tell us why it bothers you? Just asking 'cause I don't know and can't imagine what about it bothers you to play with a lower rated player. I had always supposed that a lower rated player would just be paying for golf lessons, which I would have thought would be welcome.
I'm talking about earning your division! That way no bagging and no donating.
The only way to get better is to play with people that are better than you. But not necessarily in a tournament. Why not play a division that you just might win?
I see nothing wrong with playing up. It helps you to play better. When I started out I played Advanced for a year or two. I never really won anything but soon I wanted to challenge myself and so I moved up to Open. Loved every minute of it. And I was pushing myself to play better and I was learning from good players. Now I don't see any point in rec players going Open but if you have been playing for as long as I have it's not really all about winning. It's about the challenge. As others say I'm donating. And if I handle myself in a good manner and respect others then I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. Oh how I wish that I could still do some tourneys. I would probably be playing Grand Master now. They didn't even have the ratings system when I was playing tourneys. Disc Golf is and awesome and unique sport.
While I encourage players to play tournaments, not everyone belongs in a tournament and not every player belongs in every division.

Until a child is old enough to develop basic skills and attention span and an appreciation for the rules they don't belong in tournaments. This is rarely a problem in tournaments but more often encountered in leagues. It is hard to focus on your own game and do pseudo-babysitting duties as well.

There is an advantage for Pros to play with other good Pros. In a group where everyone hits the line and makes easy putts it becomes a momentum thing. If everyone in the group is carding pars (or worse) on short, easy holes then it is harder to break that mold and cash a deuce. So a good group pushes each other and in a tournament with lots of good Pros it is imperative to get on a roll and avoid mistakes in order to be in the hunt.

Some players are bothered by weaker players in their group, just like some players are bothered (more than others) by distractions or slow play or bad attitudes or hostility, etc. Those are things that just need to be overcome in order to play well. For anyone who can't, it a weakness in their game.

No one owes it other players in their group to play well. Everyone has bad rounds, no matter the talent or motivation of the player. We owe each other basic courtesy. We should continue to pay attention and compete, no matter how poorly we are playing. That's it. We don't owe the group anything more. If a lowly Amateur stepped up and played Pro but followed these guidelines no one has a legitimate basis to gripe.

Personally I would rather play with weak players than slow players. At least the weak player has a good reason to take a while to finish a hole.
Well said!
I'm was hoping to discus the PDGA requiring a player to earn their division.It makes no sense to me, rating rounds ,having a player ratings but you can play in any division.If you earned your division no more sand bagging [ like a 1000+ rated player winning am. worlds].
just woke up and had to point out seeing this post directly below the "discgolfers that play with themselves." Well it's just too much!!! Classic...couldn't pull that off again if we tried.
I've been toying around with the idea of playing a tournament in a division to high for me. I wouldn't mind donating to get a 24 hole lesson from players better than me. Better yet, I may not even finish last, wouldn't that be great? I think a system should be in place to keep sandbaggers on the move. But penalizing people who want a chance to learn I don't like. Not so much that they don't have to earn their division but how many of us rule a lower division, move up, don't feel like we can really cut it yet and move back down. Its like majors and Minors in baseball, only we have a choice if we want to move up or down. But bagging should be prevented.
Get on a pro card at league or some casual rounds.Having to earn your division is not a penalty it keeps a level play field base on the rating perimeters, and sure some will be on top, but your competing with in your ability. When your rating reaches the minimum for the next division you move up.

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