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I'm taking suggestions for a good hyzer flip driver tailor fit to my throw. I had been using Champ. Sidewinders. I still love them and hyzer flip them at 70% power and for turnovers, but for those open bombs I'm looking for something with a little more stability.

I'll also qualify my power level: Roc=330 ft, Teebird=380 ft, Teerex-X 410 ft

Also, as a last requirement, I don't want something with a rim bigger than a surge/wraith/teerex size.

Any suggestions?

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z flash? the rim might be about the same size.
Z Surge SS as revolutionized this throw for me. Compared to a surge, it just feels like it glides longer. As far as stability goes, it just has a longer flip than a surge (174g).
new max wt. champ monarch
that kind of power you should be able to hyzer flip a wraith. if that has more fade at the end than you like, try an inferno.
I have similar power to what you are explaining. I love Beat in Wraiths. They flip flat better than any of the other fast drivers. Plus they have just enough stability when they slow down to be really consistent for me. The new domey pop-top Star Wraiths are very good for this shot even though they start out fairly overstable.
i agree, if you cant throw it into some trees, it'll flip beautifully eventully.

Coolhand said:
that kind of power you should be able to hyzer flip a wraith. if that has more fade at the end than you like, try an inferno.
DGA rogue.....I'd call it a slightly more stable sidewinder......great tailwind driver as well!
Surge SS

A Scream or Assassin (same mold, different name) would be my suggestion.

Star Beast.

Had no confidence in the Beast, but someone told me to try out the Star version, and it is far more predictable than I had expected.
Z flash, beast, assassian, valk, opto striker

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