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My mistake and a bigger DB...
This is a smattering of stuff that has been keeping me up at night…am I out of line?
Understand that our club president sent him an e-mail at 12AM the night of (about 2 hours
after the fact) and called him first thing in the morning. The club helps sponsor the league.
What would your reaction be?
Original stlouisdiscgolfclub.com post:
And after the club president talked
As I explained to Chris you guys
approached me with the offer I didn't ask you for it. I think it is really
unfair of you to expect me to give everything back especially when Chris had me
sign a paper stating that I was paid for the coupon so I couldn't go back on
the deal. As you stated JB is a public park but you then "suggest"
that I not show up there on anyday. If this is some sort of threat against my
person or my property I will immediately call the police if there is any hint
of trouble at JB park. I will be keeping this email just in case as evidence of
the threat if there is any trouble. Please cease to contact me further.
After a few testimonials
on my behalf, here is a reply…
And my final transmission…
Sometimes a mistake is made. Sometimes individuals need to step back and look
at it from a different point of view. We are a volunteer organization. I am
sorry that you saw it as an irreversible situation, when in fact it is nowhere
near this way. It only backs up the testimonies from several other,
non-involved, individuals that you sometimes rub people the wrong way. Maybe
you are what they say you are. Sorry to see you go. Have fun, buddy...I will
never contact you again. There are plenty of other courses for you to play. No
threats will EVER be issued, but your presence at JB will probably not be very
well received. I hope you enjoy your 6 discs and $71 enough to compensate for
your loss of St. Louis
disc golf as a fun and carefree activity.
P.S. "If this is some sort of threat against my person or my property I
will immediately call the police if there is any hint of trouble at JB park. I
will be keeping this email just in case as evidence of the threat if there is
any trouble." Do you honestly think
I would do anything remotely close to this? You must be a...
I haven't been on the STL forum recently so this is news to me...I'm sorry to hear about it. I can see how it puts you guys in a tough spot and although the situation is worse than most, I know exactly what it feels like to have something like this festering inside of you for way too long. It looks like you, Chris, and the club at large are rallying to try and do anything you can to make it right again. It's a major bummer that this hasn't been successful yet. Perhaps there are others who this jerk@#% is friends with who may be able to try talking a little sense into him. If not, and he's already shirked the attempts of reasoned compromise from you, Chris, and others, I wouldn't hold my breath much longer. You have to let it go somehow.
Regardless of the outcome, try to make peace with it. You and Chris should be able to find some agreeable remedy for the club--possibly even another, extra sweet CTP fundraiser?--but even if it doesn't suit you the best, I would suggest doing your best to put it behind you. Once it's settled, tell yourself that and stick to it. Avoid thinking and talking about it if all it does is irk you. You could even write a concluding post on the forum explaining the resolution and why it is now in the past (for you and the club). Hopefully this can serve as a symbolic and literal end of the discussion, and you can move on with life as usual. As for Don, he may have won his mini disc golf lottery, but that won't last forever. Think KARMA. Plus, if he has a soul at all he too has his moments struggling to deal with this. And as you said, he is alienating himself from the club indefinitely.
Anyway, I'm again sorry to hear about this but I hope you can put it behind you regardless of whatever remedy may arise. Best of luck and thanks for all your hard work for STL disc golf! I've been in Columbia, but I'll try to make it to a tourney or club event again soon.
Ya'll just need to move on.Excepting a major mistake is very hard to swallow,but you owned up to it.
Perhaps have cake sale/car wash to recoup your loss.Lemonade stands might do well with the summer heat .
So what you're saying is you made the guy a deal for his 50% off coupon and later on you wanted to reneg on the deal and he's a jerk for not renegotiating? I don't think so. A deal is a deal. You offered; he accepted; the deal is done. Or maybe we should give Alaska back to the Russians because that deal turned out to be kind of onesided also.
And you're also saying that as it turns out the Club didn't authorize you to make that deal so they are going to make you eat the cost of your mistake? Sounds to me like they need a different volunteer to work his asterisk off running their future tournaments. Any club that treats its volunteers like that is cruising for a break up. Mistakes happen. You build a little profit in a tournament to cover mistakes and unexpected expenses. You don't stick it to the TD.
Wow, all this over six round pieces of plastic and $71? Greg, you made a mistake and it cost you a hundred and fifty bucks. Now you want to 'ban' this guy and his friend (totally out of left field) from playing doubles? How 'bout you just beat him at golf for money until you get it back. If not, you have learned a $150 life lesson, which is pretty cheap.
Maybe you could get your money back by hosting a whine and cheese festival.
You made a mistake. The club that empowered you needs to absorb the cost of that mistake. I'm sorry and I'm sure that it made you sick and lose sleep. I'm sure I would have felt the same way, but contacting him in the first place... publicly at that was wrong. If you felt the need to talk to him at all about it (which I still think is a mistake) you should have spoken to him privately fully aware that he was completely entitled to say no. You shouldn't be shocked that he said no by the way.
Then I simply can't believe that you think it's right to black-ball him from leagues. On what grounds? You're not a true disc golf club if you do things like that. If you were or are a non-profit, you might be headed for legal trouble. In fact you might be in legal trouble already for implying that his presence would be unwelcome at the course. It should sounded like a threat to this outsider. What else would you call the sentence "your presence at JB will probably not be very well received."? What did you mean by that exactly?
So you try to take his fairly won prize away and then ban him from leagues and tell him that he is not on good terms with the locals. Sorry, you sound like your heart is in the right place with trying to help your local club, but YOU are the one out of line here. I may have been willing to compromise in the situation (though it would suck), but he had no obligation to do so.