I bought the Groove and didn't like it, I throw both backhand and sidearm and just couldn't get it to work for me, I got rid of it, but my Boss! I absolutely love this for a sidearm driver, besides my Orion, this is my favorite long drive disc! I hope you'll have as much luck with it as I have, although some of my friends say its too bulky and thick for their style, I'm the only sidearm fenatic in our bunch and its all I use it for, good luck!
The first run bosses are super flippy, i dont care to much for them ( I have a practicly brand new x out first run boss for sale if anyone wants it lol) and i like the regular champs ok and havent thrown a star yet, but the way to go is a destroyer you cant beat it
I'm a fairly new player that doesn't have a lot of power (I'm normally happy with 300'). The Star boss that I picked up is one of two discs that I've thrown that I can really call game-changers for me (the other is my FLX Buzzz). It's ridiculously overstable, and I have a tough time getting it to do anything other than hyzer. However, it goes at least 50' further than anything else in my bag. I even got some comments about how the disc came "screaming" out of my hand. I know with more power and\or snap, I could flirt with 400' with this disc.
Haha, these new discs released by Innova have such a HUGE rim that they are so hard to control the flatness or dominess of the flight plate which causes huge inconsistencies. I am a guy that has tried them all quite a bit and I would say stick to the destroyer, xcal, or wraith if you are looking for a high speed driver. As for the most distance you will get it is all about what flight path you choose and what the wind is doing as well as how you release it and how your form is. Just keep practicing! get 3-4 of whatever driver fits best in your hand and just keep ripping it straight and you will undoubtedly get better, getting the new fastest plastic is not going to make you better. Haha, I can say this all day but we all try the newest fastest discs anyways just because it's fun. Not so much fun when you realize that those discs are worthless unless you play on wide open courses.
I love the lighter, low 160 g, R Pro Boss I've been throwing.
I've thrown several CH Grooves now and I just don't get this disc. They fly very overstable for me even in very light weights ... unlike any other -2 rated disc I've ever thrown. I've got 1 out of 5 that will do that ... the rest fly like Firebirds.
Have a Champion Boss that throws well for me.I don't consider myself a big arm thrower but it gets me out there easier than alot of other discs I toss. Some viscious skips that may or may not be in your favor though. Have also had the chance to throw a friends Groove a few times, but none during a round to run it through its paces. Still it was nice to throw.
I throw both the grove and the boss, tho I like the grove better. but in a good head wind the boss is the go to disc. I like them for the larger rim. I have a grip problem and they are easier to grip. (and grip is everything in a good throw) The grove is easier to turn over. Both are very fast and dependable.