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Ok, this one is going to chap a lot of people, but if we can have a civil discussuion and just present the facts we can get through it. I really want to know, so don't think I'm just being an idiot, although I will be playing the antagonist in this disccission.
Here it is: Why is it that so many people recommend to new players that they use Putters and Mids to learn with? We have all heard some form of the statement, "Go learn to throw your putter 300 feet and then you'll understand how to throw", or some varieant on this.
I call BULLSH*T!
I think what you'll learn is how to throw your putter 300 feet.
I think a more well rounded approach to the game, learning to throw all discs and understanding the numbers and controlling your plastic purchases is a better way to go. Learning the different grips, reach back, runup, keeping things flat and straight is a better approach.
OK GUYS, KILL IT!
plp. What do you know, Mark Ellis? ;)
Well, while I am far from an expert, I am still learning and learning more each time I go out. I have to agree with your statement. You should learn to throw all discs. I think the problem is that everyone wants to go out and throw 300 ft. or more. I'm not there yet, and may never get there, but by working with all discs, I am learning more about what grips to use and when, how to shape my shots, and improve my putting. Is the drive the most important shot? Maybe. I would argue that the second shot is more important, especially if you drive does not go where you expect it to. So, in my humble opinion, work on all of your shots and your scores will improve, and you will have more fun.
If learning to throw your putter 300' is all your getting then your missing the point. Alot on new players dont pick up a putter or a mid range until they are inside 35' and sometimes not even then. It has to do with learning to throw different shots and gaining confidence with their putter and mid ranges. (Alot of people dont even know they can throw there putter as far as they can.) The main thing I learn from it is course management. You learn to look at the course and evaluate your options. Course management can win you more tournaments more than just throwing your driver as far as you can every time. Learning to avoid bogeys is sometimes more important than trying to birdie every hole. I have taken guys out just after a round and watched them shoot better with just their putter than with the whole bag the previous round. Why is that? its because of good course management. Sometimes getting a par is more important than risking it for a birdie.
That is not all that I personally got out of throwing putters and mids. I learned how much height putters and mids need to go far. I became more surgical with them than I already was.I developed a better practice routine for them. I learned some new lines that I can shape with them and how to forehand them much smoother.
It didn't help me drive any further with my fairway or distance drivers, but it did improve my options in my short game. I thought I had a pretty complete game already, so it just kind of reinforced that aspect of my game. I won't disc down on a complete basis again, it hurt my distance game, but I will continue to work them.
Discing down actually does help your distance game. You learn what you have to do to throw a slower disc farther which in turn enables you to throw a faster disc farther with much more control. You will be able to play in the windy conditions better. Different elevations will not be a problem. Playing in tournaments better will not be as stressfull. All in all you'll be a better player than you were. That is the ultimate goal. Throw in open fields with no obsticles or targets. As you learn the disc your throwing start adding targets to hone in your accuracy. Throw different shots with the same disc. Putters and Mids are the best to learn first. You'll begin to notice that the learning curve for yourself of new discs is alot less. This makes practice more efficient.
Thats only a rumor....read the whole thread.
ummm no discing down doesnt help distance at all. you throw an aviar dead balls flat with no wind it will go straight and maybe fade a little bit but if you throw a firebird the same exact way it might fly 100 foot further than the aviar if your lucky. if you learn to throw a putter 300 ft then turn around and throw a roc the same way then youll be lucky to throw the roc accurately. at some point in your game you have to learn to throw drivers mids and putters, drivers are the hardest to learn to control so if you start with drivers and learn them well then mids and putters are a cake walk if you learn not to just throw them balls to the wall all the time. first learn how to reach the basket then work on short game.
Seen Guys Putt with a Distance Driver !!! I guess whatever floats your boat !
Just learn Proper Technique. Go on Tour !!!! Play Open at the World's !!!!
"play open at worlds" -DO, never seizes to have cool thangs to say
just try out different discs and see what works for you. start out understable and work up to stable discs as you gain power and control. it doesnt matter wether you start with a dart,roc,shark,leopard,viper,destroyer etc. personally i believe the best thing you can do when starting out is listen, ask questions and pay attention to the ways different discs fly its all about finding what works for each person. what works for others wont always work for you.
Throwing mids and putters are a great way to learn angle, speed, and torque control. The best way is learning to throw an ultimate disc.
No it isn't....read the whole thread.