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I've just converted from a dominant forehand player to a "versitale" backhand and forehand player. I have no problem getting my tracker to fly straight at about 275-300 but i'm looking for that added D that i can control. I've only been throwing backhand for a couple of months but the variable are coming together quickly! I'm just cuious on any advice anyone would have to help me take it to the next level.

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Z wildcat. super controlable. throw flat it goes straight, if you really get on it it will flip and go right, or throw on a hyzer, it will hold it out. its my go to driver.

http://www.clearwaterdiscgolfstore.com/star-valkyrie-p-243.html?osC...
The lighter weights will flip and glide better, the heavier ones fight the wind a little better.
The Valk is great for holding your angle of release for a long time in the flight. Hyzer or Anhyzer!
Most throwing backhand experience a little flip to the right that quickly flattens to a great glide and not too much of a left turn when the spin finally dies off. Making a straight line with a slight helix shot.
So the disc is actually great for accuracy while still holding the World Distance Record.
The 1st Run Champion Edition versions are still the best ones ever produced and still hold a giant value as there are not too many good ones left available.
There is Hope though, because some of the new Star plastic is very close to the Champion Edition and useful for the great accuracy and glide the Old School CE's had.
The Valk is a great control and distance disc in all types of plastic.
Want something super fast and fun to experiment with? Grab a Star Boss! I am getting tremendous results with one of these for distance...Kenny Climo Added one to his bag Immediately, as did I after just a few shots!

http://www.clearwaterdiscgolfstore.com/star-boss-p-3580.html?osCsid...
Innova discs: Valkyrie, Wraith, Beast, Destroyer(great disc) Or an Orc..
Discraft discs: Surge, Crush (so so), Wild Cat, Avenger (mybe to overstable) and the Flash
Millium discs (very underated discs) : Orion LF and LS, and Polaris
Those are just a few off the top of my head. Hope one of them works for you. I must say Millium might suprise you!
ESP Flash!!!!!!!!!!! I use them as my mine backhand disc and for straight sidearm shots.

Fast and lots of glide, if your looking for big D and still want the controlablity. Flash is a good choice 1.5 overstable.
Millennium have great controlable drivers! Their midrange and Omega putter is great too. Orion LF are nice drivers, good distance with great control. Flat tops make them nice for backhand and sidearm.

Rescue said:
Innova discs: Valkyrie, Wraith, Beast, Destroyer(great disc) Or an Orc..
Discraft discs: Surge, Crush (so so), Wild Cat, Avenger (mybe to overstable) and the Flash
Millium discs (very underated discs) : Orion LF and LS, and Polaris
Those are just a few off the top of my head. Hope one of them works for you. I must say Millium might suprise you!
Thanks for spelling Mil&^%%$ ium right for me! Never write after a few beers!

PoeticLogic said:
Millennium have great controlable drivers! Their midrange and Omega putter is great too. Orion LF are nice drivers, good distance with great control. Flat tops make them nice for backhand and sidearm.

Rescue said:
Innova discs: Valkyrie, Wraith, Beast, Destroyer(great disc) Or an Orc..
Discraft discs: Surge, Crush (so so), Wild Cat, Avenger (mybe to overstable) and the Flash
Millium discs (very underated discs) : Orion LF and LS, and Polaris
Those are just a few off the top of my head. Hope one of them works for you. I must say Millium might suprise you!
One word.....Assassin!!! It is really easy to pump out to 350+ and it does not fade like the the other drivers. The key is control....the closest thing that Innova had was the Teebird L or the XS from Discraft. I would check out the Assassin first.
For a different perspective...

If you have some backhand power try a Quest T-Bone (80/20 version - more stable, won't flip on you) or a Quest Inferno (80/20 version). The Gateway Illusion is nice too. A great forehand disc would be the Raging Inferno (not the DT version), but if you try that one you'll want to go back to throwing forehand exclusively.

Ryan
He is looking for something with nice control too. These are all massively overstable discs that would be harder for a player new to backhand to control.

Ryan Cole said:
For a different perspective...

If you have some backhand power try a Quest T-Bone (80/20 version - more stable, won't flip on you) or a Quest Inferno (80/20 version). The Gateway Illusion is nice too. A great forehand disc would be the Raging Inferno (not the DT version), but if you try that one you'll want to go back to throwing forehand exclusively.

Ryan
No problem.

Rescue said:
Thanks for spelling Mil&^%%$ ium right for me! Never write after a few beers!

PoeticLogic said:
Millennium have great controlable drivers! Their midrange and Omega putter is great too. Orion LF are nice drivers, good distance with great control. Flat tops make them nice for backhand and sidearm.

Rescue said:
Innova discs: Valkyrie, Wraith, Beast, Destroyer(great disc) Or an Orc..
Discraft discs: Surge, Crush (so so), Wild Cat, Avenger (mybe to overstable) and the Flash
Millium discs (very underated discs) : Orion LF and LS, and Polaris
Those are just a few off the top of my head. Hope one of them works for you. I must say Millium might suprise you!
thanks for all the positive feedback. i've been out in the field daily working on my d with my tee-rex and i've also got a star destroyer that i'm getting to "S" when i huck on it. I guess I also need to understand choosing the right disc for the shot. Obviously if its a tight tunnel shot I shouldn't necessarily be throwing either of them. I guess it was just something that I thought i'd pick up in a week or so. I've only been playing for a year, and throwing backhand for maybe a month. All my buddies that play AM1 say i'm making great progress but I just want to be out there crushing em. Anyways like I said thanks for all the advice. Oh and www.clearwaterdiscgolfstore.com you should be happy that i've bought all my new discs threw you just about 5minutes ago.
Ryan Cole said:
For a different perspective...

If you have some backhand power try a Quest T-Bone (80/20 version - more stable, won't flip on you) or a Quest Inferno (80/20 version). The Gateway Illusion is nice too. A great forehand disc would be the Raging Inferno (not the DT version), but if you try that one you'll want to go back to throwing forehand exclusively.

Ryan
I would have to agree with Poetic...these discs are too stable for a control driver with the exception of the T-Bone and possibly the Inferno.

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