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does anybody know if this disc is a good sidearm?
used to flick a roc but had a lot of trouble controling it. {flippy]

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Sounds like it might be even flippier. Try a Zone, or a Drone. These are overstable mids.
Ive thrown one, flippier than a roc.....I agree with bruce I use a drone for mid range flicks and a zone for short range. You will have a hard time flipping either of them
the whippet-x is a good midrange side-armer. impossible to flip

i like the cfr glow champ

I'd say it's more "flippy" than the Roc. A Gator is great mid and is plenty overstable. Of all the discs I've had in my bag. The Gator is the only one that has never been taken out of my bag. It's money!
I see a lot of sidearm players at one of the local courses throwing gators with great success. Standing still, too!
thanks for all the replies i've been thinking of a gator but thought it might be over the top a little.
Maybe? All I know is I never worry about it not hyzering back. No matter how much wind. I guess I like it because it's deadly from 150' in. It's a great disc, but if you want something with more "D". I use and love my Z Drone, but my Gator gets the bulk of the work.
What gators do you throw? the only ones I ever liked were the old champ ones with the bead... freakin hate the star gators
I think that there is always room in the bag for an overstable workhorse like the Drone or Zone. They might be too stable for most shots, but I don't leave home without them. I agree with everyone that it is the consistency of these discs (the Drone especially) that is so appealing. Even with a ton of anhyzer, my Drone immediately starts to fight back and always finishes with a hyzer. It just laughs at the wind too.
Ya, I'm not a fan of the Star Gator. When I first started playing about 3 to 4 years ago. It was love at first throw. So I started buying any Champ Gator I saw. Via internet or at tournaments. So I have about 6 or 7 backups. 2 are 1st runs (dumb luck on those) I know they make some CFR's, but I don't know if they are the old mold or new one. Hmmm.. no bead on the Star Gators? I never noticed. Maybe that's why I didn't like them ? Thank God I'm not a trained observor lol!!!

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