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Permalink Reply by Jeff Nichols on June 2, 2012 at 9:34pm You WILL IMPROVE and get Better Quicker by Moving Up. BUT, if you feel your not ready, it's your call. The one thing about this sport is people REALLY like the Sand Bagger term....
Play Rec until your rating starts with a 9. It's a fallacy that players play better by playing up. Players get better by practicing.
Permalink Reply by Bruce Brakel on June 4, 2012 at 11:16pm Everything I know about behavioral psychology agrees with Chuck's conclusion that it is a fallacy that you get better by playing up. It would be interesting to test the conclusion mathmatically with PDGA data. For instance you could plot data from non-Masters aged amateur players with Intermediate ratings from two years ago. On the y axis plot % occasions of playing up and on the x axis plot change in rating over two years. Chuck's theory would be confirmed by a declining curve.
We've already shown statistically that the average rating of the group you are playing with does not impact how well you shoot. Climo dominated for all of those years and never played with a group whose rating averaged higher than his.
Permalink Reply by Jim Coonradt on June 5, 2012 at 1:10am Climo might not be the best example. He isn't exactly your "average" player.
He's just the most extreme example of someone who never got a "break" getting to play with players better than him. Yet they didn't drag him down.
Permalink Reply by David Sauls on June 5, 2012 at 8:10am You'd think all those "bagger" threads would refute the notion that you need to play tournaments against better players to improve. Besides, generally speaking if you move up you only play the first round with better players; after that you're grouped with players who just shot the same as you.
Permalink Reply by Bruce Brakel on June 5, 2012 at 9:07am The one other thing I would say about moving up to improve your game is this. For various reasons I sometimes play up from Intermediate. This past weekend I played up. I don't see much benefit in playing up unless you play up to a pro division. Even then, you need to pay attention to what these guys are doing that you are not.
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