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Hey everyone!

Got a question for the group that I am hoping people will weigh-in on.  Since I got back into disc golf heavy-duty 4-5 years ago, everything in my bag has been 174-178g.  Putters, mid-range/approach, drivers.  The heavier the better in all the chronic wind we face down here on the prairie (SW Minnesota).  That said, my driving distances (Pro Wraith, Star Destroyer, Star SL) have plateaued around 310-325 feet.  I've worked my footwork, I've tweaked my throwing motion and accelerated the "rip" across my chest, making sure I've got that little "flick" at the very end of my release, etc.  Barring my throwing off of the top of a hill or out the back of an airplane, I just can't get longer.  :-)

Meanwhile, there are other guys I play with regularly who have jumped from 300 to 400+ feet off the tee the past couple years.  They'll throw 165-168g or even a 150-160g Boss!  They're 5-10 years younger than me (39)...so maybe middle age has something to do with it too.  However, I am wondering if anyone has ever seen any studies or analysis which might suggest that there is an optimal weight of disc to throw off the tee.

It would certainly depend a lot upon body type, skill, etc.  However, if 165g would get me more distance than 175g without sacrificing too much lateral accuracy (in the wind), that would be good information to know (and then share with the DG masses).

Any help, ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated!  Thanks.

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I was playing with my boy yesterday and threw some for distance, mine 2- 167 Katana, 1- 170 Destroyer, 1- 170 Crush all where around 325'-340', then I threw my sons 150 dx sidewinder. That landed 50'-70' further, all tailwind shots. So I would say weight has alot to do with it. If your throw is maxed out with your normal weights go lighter it should add some D.
I haven't been playing very long but I've found that the lighter discs do go farther with my throws. Best thing to do is buy a disc that you already have in a lighter weight and see what happens. (or borrow from friend to save some money)
lighter will fly futher (with no wind involved) as long as your noy turning it into a roller. world distance i think is with a 167 valk.
I switched to 150 class this year. I improved over 80 feet without wind. Took a little bit of getting used to . . . I am 45 and live in SD. Yesterday I was throwing in 30mph winds with 150. I figure I am going to live or die by these things.

My monarch 147g was just awesome in the wind yesterday. I only lost about 30 feet by having to do larger hyzers. I still hit par (3 choked putts) where I normally throw 5 below. So that is only 2 strokes off. And I only had one bad throw because of the wind, which was a pooched shot to start with and would have been bad no matter what.
I have a few 150 disks and really like them. I'm learning how to use them in the wind. The force 150's seem to do ok even with a headwind.



Cam
Thanks everyone! Sounds as though the consensus would be to throw some lighter weights and feel 10-15 years younger on the tee as a direct result. :-) I'm heading to Gotta Go Gotta Throw on Thursday for my annual purchase of some new equipment, so I think I'll maybe give a 150g and a 165-167g driver or two a try. I'll report on the results of that little experiment in lighter weights as soon as I can.
Will do, Harold! I try not to make too many radical changes in my game (I've had some good "teachers" over time, and it's probably tough to try and teach this "old dog" too many new tricks in too little time). However, I am anxious to buy a couple discs that are 8-10g lighter and see how they work. I'm also going to head out to the 400' hole on our local course tomorrow and throw 174g and 167g Surge SS and Avenger SS to see what happens with each. Not my discs of choice (Wraith, in particular), but I've thrown them each enough at 174g to know what each should do. Now we'll see which one flies farther...and if I have a harder time keeping the lighter disc in the landing zone where I want it.
I was going to post the same question brother.... Please keep me infomed on your findings :)
You dont need any lighter plastic... However its sounds to me like you need more understable drivers. Also If your not able to throw past 350' you dont and CANT get the benefits of a distance driver... Distant drivers such as destoryer wraith and boss i only ment to go over 400 feet.. I you cant throw it 400' those disc are being counter productive. If you must throw a driver look for a sidewider or roadrunner. However i would suggest throwing a midrange ROC until you can throw it 290-300' and then everyhing else can fall into place. Too many beginners are thorwing discs that will only stagnate there games forever becuase they are to overstable for them and the disc actually falls rather than flys.. Take this for what it worth hope it helps... I PROMISE it will.
That's a great point too...overstable vs. understable. I've been playing disc now for 32 years...but only got serious about it (sanctioned tournaments) in the past 4-5. My problem though is that I can throw my mid-range 275+ (174-177g Rocs/Buzzzs). Rocs when I need a little more hyzer action, Buzzz when I need a little more straight/anhyzer action. But when I pull my Wraith, SL or Destroyer out of my bag, and I can barely get it 295-300 right now. 315-325 feet once I chip the Winter rust off my game.

It drives me bonkers that a driver that other guys about my same height/build (albeit it younger, most of the time) can throw 375-400+ can barely get out there 10-30 feet farther than my mid-range/approach discs. My putting is getting a lot better the past 18 months (a lot more comfortable from 30-40 feet out), and my approach game has always been my strength! I just STINK off the tee...and it seems like whatever I try just hasn't got the job done.
Just got back in from the course. That was a fun little experiment! I wanted to throw Surge SS or Avenger SS for my test, but I didn't have enough of a weight differential in the discs available to me to do it. So, I took two brand-new Flicks out of the box instead (I NEVER throw Flicks off the tee, so there was no bias present). The results are below:


It was WINDY (20-25 mph, gusting to almost 40 mph), with the wind coming across and to the left off me off the tee (a slight tailwind) as a LHBH player. All in all, the 166g disc averaged about 8.5 feet further off the tee...with very similar results related to accuracy/placement. Ten attempts per disc (smaller sample size). I threw the "heavy," then I threw the light. 1, 1. 2, 2. Etc.

Anyway, from what I could gather, the lighter disc did fly a bit farther...with absolutely no loss in control. Interesting! That jive with what others might expect to see for results? Let me know...
Lighter Drivers with the right wind will have more carry.

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