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...disc golf values is showing OUT OF STOCK for 11x Champion Firebirds. I knew I should have bought several from them when I had the chance. Time to go weep while I throw wobbly practice putts in my basement. There's good man-healing waiting for me in the disc golf cave.

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I haven't had the chance to throw them much yet, but from what I've heard the new glow run firebirds are pretty similar to the 11x birds. Might as well give them a shot.
They are, you're right. I have one and it's every bit as flat and stable as my 11xs. It's also a lot stiffer though. I like just alittle bit of give to the top plate, but it's a minor annoyance. I just wish it weren't so friggin difficult to get a good firebird. I hope they just start getting the current runs right. It would save everyone a lot of hassle.
You both are right. The champ glow Firebirds are very flat and just very slightly stiffer than 11x. I picked up a couple as backups .... and I actually think I will end up liking them better. I also think they are even more overstable, but that could be just because I haven't broken them in as much as the 11x in my bag.
No, I think you're right about them being more overstable. I've been telling people that they're even more 11x than 11xs. :-)
Whats wrong with 12x?
Guess your going to have to start buying some CE FX's ;)
There is one @ the bottom of the lake at Idlewild in KY if you want to go swimming for one!
@Wade: The 12x FBs are domier and not nearly as overstable as a general rule. I'm guessing there are some exceptions. It holds true for all the firebirds I own.

@Rick: Have you seen the price tag on them on ebay lately?? I'm guessing 11xs are going to start going up in price now in a similar fashion.
Also try to find a Flat CFR Firebird for under $ 20.00

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