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I HAVE BEEN PLAYIN ABOUT 5 YEARS AND KNOW ANY DISC INNOVA MAKES AND HAVE TRIED THEM ALL, BUT I CANT FIND ANY MIDRANGES THAT I DONT TURN OVER I HAVE TRIED EVERY KIND OF ROC, SPIDER, CRO, ETC. LATELY I HAVE BEEN HAVING TO USE WHIPPETS FOR MIDRANGES DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY INPUT THAT MIGHT HELP????
Bingo. Nice call Nick Young. If the top Pros (who have amazing power) can control a midrange and you cannot then the problem is not with the disc but with you.
So first, stop shouting. Next start throwing flat and straight and smooth. If that doesn't work then get a Drone. The Drone won't fix your form but it will mask your flaws.
Eventually you want to be able throw flat and straight and smooth so get a Buzzz and start practicing with it. Don't try to throw it over the moon. Instead focus on flat and straight and smooth (do you notice a pattern here?) Power without control will not get you very far in this game. Because after your hole-in-one on a 500 foot hole, the next hole is a tight tunnel only 200 feet long. A one and a six still add up to seven and the underpowered guy on your card just took a 3 and a 2 on those two holes and is up by 2 strokes on you.
Once you can handle a Buzzz then go get a Rattler (an understable putter). By the time you can float and control a Rattler inside 100 feet you will be a real golfer and your competition will fear you. Right now your competition only fears you in a long distance driving contest.
ok thanks for the tips mark and nick so basically i need to stop trying to throw my midranges like a driver and stop trying to hit 400 ft. with a midrange and if i dont think i can control my midrange i should throw a reliable fairway driver and focus my midrange discs on my small game? correct?
okay thanks for the tips...
Exactly, I did the same thing as you several months ago. I pulled the Buzzz and my Roc outta my bag thinking that I had outgrown them. Picked up a Wasp thinking I solved the issue. But I have never had an overstable mid end its flight straight as its flight. So I slowed everything down and focused on my form. There is a place in our games for those big mid shots, but far more of smooth and straight shots required. Just stick with it and think "form=distance"
Shane resonded: ""ok thanks for the tips mark and nick so basically i need to stop trying to throw my midranges like a driver and stop trying to hit 400 ft. with a midrange and if i dont think i can control my midrange i should throw a reliable fairway driver and focus my midrange discs on my small game? correct?""
Short term sure. But long term you need to control your power, not just diminish it. This is a function of form. Most guys who flip mids over are not throwing FLAT and STRAIGHT and SMOOTH. The odds are that you are turning your wrist over as you release the disc, so concentrate on the very last instant before release and snap flat (add a bit more hyzer to your release angle). Follow through flat. Dead nuts flat. If that doesn't cure it then overcompensate and give it more hyzer angle. Just because you think you are releasing flat does not mean that is what is actually happening.
The disc never lies. It always tells you what you are doing. Watch the disc. If it is flipping over then it is because you are causing it to do so. A lot of good Pros throw a mid 400 feet or more and control it. You can too if you have that kind of power. It sounds like you do.
This is pretty much all good advice. There's not much I can say that hasn't already been said, but I'll try anyway.
Just like Rescue, I started off trying to power grip everything. I basically learned on drivers, thus I was unknowingly throwing all my discs as if they were drivers. Throwing mids typically ended with failure and frustration. I would flip virtually everything over and was convinced the discs just weren't right for me. Literally the only mid I could throw was a Drone. Then I started using a modified fan grip for mids and putters. This vastly improved my accuracy and overall flight pattern. I can't say I don't get a little jealous when I see guys throw a Buzzz as hard as they can--I've even been experimenting again with an occasional power gripped Buzzz--but I'm confident this approach is better for my game. In short, gripping/throwing putters and mids differently than drivers allows for greater accuracy compared to greater snap, respectively, upon release.
i have decent power i broke my personal record a few months ago, i hit 587 ft. but like you said that doesnt mean anything if i cant throw 200 ft. accurately. ill work on my release and form and let you know how it works.. thanks for the help...
well looks like i have something to look forward to working on lol.