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What kind of revenue do you think a pay-to-play course can generate? How many players per-month are needed to sustain a disc golf course?
I have a local ball golf course in mind when I say, "they must be going bankrupt soon because no golfers want to play there"(plus the market is flooded in the area for good, cheap golf).
I have been wanting to approach them with the idea to add a 18-36 hole basket lay-out to attract income and boost the popularity of the sport in the state(Utah). How are the ball/disc golf courses fairing since they have been introduced? I doubt that it would cost the course any more then the cost of baskets to be successful.

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Most of the pay to play courses in California earn more money off the sales of pro shop items like drinks, snacks and discs than the greens fees. This is for stand alone pay-to-play courses and not disc golf/ball golf courses.

The success or failure of disc golf on ball golf courses seems directly dependent on the relationship between the course management and the disc golf promoter.
Thats easy to understand because the "Green fees" I have paid to play disc golf in California have all been around $2.00. Don't you think a course could be successful if you would charge $5-$10 to play?
There are many variables that relate to the success of any disc course on a ball golf course. Discette was definitely right on the mark with the relationship between the management and the promoter. However, disc golf must also be promoted in a way that makes fellow discers want to support the new course. The times that disc golf is available to be played is just one factor as well as the price, distance from nearest disc golf course and distance from nearest group of avid disc golfers. Even if it is a gem of a course, if it is too far away not many will come.

It is not the message that the course thinks it is giving to disc golfers that matters. It is the message the disc golfers are really getting that is really important!
I was talking to one of the locals of Madison and he said at Token Creek, which is $5 a day or $ 50 (i think) for a yearly pass that they had over $ 60,000 alone in green fees. But when you take out the cost of keeping it such a nice course (mowed fairways, garbage cans every hole, etc.) then the income generated is much lower. IMO you have to have a big enough market, a great product, and a large market share (not a lot of courses in your area.) I say come up with a plan by showing them cost of the project and what it can accomplish in the long run, a lot of struggling business's these days are thinking short term solution when they need to think about the long run, we are not going to be in recession forever.
My concern is that how safe is it to be disc golfing when peolpe are hitting golf balls all over the place, ouch !
Tracy Glidden said:
distance from nearest disc golf course and distance from nearest group of avid disc golfers

The course I want to build on is right down the street from our only and very crowded course, creekside park.
The danger of getting hit is there even if you are ball golfing. If you make the decision to be on a golf course for any reason, the risk of getting hit is always there. Common sense and watchful eyes and ears can prevent any accidents.

The most important thing is an education of etiquette.( FORE, never too close to the group you are following, etc . . .)
As the other's said...it's a numbers game.

I will add, I believe the success of a Disc Golf course on a Ball Golf course somewhat hinges on the active Ball Golfer contingent.
In this case it sounds like there isn't one....good thing!! Now it depends on how much an "already on the edge of bankruptcy" owner is willing to invest....offer as much volunteer effort in relationship to installing it and promoting it, as you can afford.
TheZman said:
My concern is that how safe is it to be disc golfing when peolpe are hitting golf balls all over the place, ouch !

Yeah!... and it happens! Generally the disc course is laid out away from the greens and the disc group is faster, so the flow can work fine ...no problem, if the Ball Golfers are friendly. ;)
What caliber ball golf course is it? Very well manicured, is there a dress code? I am asking these things because from the general consensus I have heard on here and at courses, is that it will be more successful if there is not a dress code, as far as collared shirts etc. I would also only pitch it as a walking course, do not offer cart rentals because they seem to be a target for abuse, thus costing the course money and them ultimately using it as an excuse to pull the course. Keep in mind if the owner does go bankrupt the course will be gone too. So if you want to invest your time in something that won’t go to waste you could be better off planning a course in a municipality park or other piece of land. Just some food for thought.
The course is a "Muni" with no dress code, in bad shape,( i.e. hard fairways, bad greens, and rocky bunkers) and is maintained poorly. It also has a mini golf course on the side that I think is keeping it in business. That is why I think introducing disc golf to the property would be such a success.
I wonder what the chances are that they would be willing to hire me as the course "disc golf pro" to help with all the responsibilities that would come with operating the disc golf department.
No carts is a good idea!
I would agree with you then and say that may be an ideal place to try and propose a course then. Being there is already fun welcome there, mini golf, sounds like you aren't going to get snobby ball golfers trying to leverage you out of there thinking they are better than the disc golfers. Go for it!

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