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loves me some mako
I have to tell you out of the numerous discs i have had the pleasure to throw when it comes to a mid range discs i try to find something that is able to do it all, not just one thing, a go to disc. i have thrown both a roc and a buzz for a good amount of time and had time to study them both flight wise and reaction wise do to weather and other contributing factors.I have to say that the buzz defiantly beats the rock in distance and control in all conditions. The rock is almost as good but there is only one problem with it due to the pop-out on the bottom of the rim it actually cuts down on the aerodynamics of the disc causing more drag on the disc in wind where as the buzzz has a nice sleek straight slope allowing for wind to pass over more smoothly. This allows for more of a glide potential and an ease on the control. so instead of having to focus on how hard you have to throw it you can ,in turn, focus on where it needs to go. I would have to say that in all conditions and for any line needed the buzzz truly exceeds expectations. i really hope this helps.
a light buzzz pairs well with a heavy roc (buzzz under 168 and roc over 175)
I will have to say the buzzz! I like my classic roc for a few shots but my staple mids are my buzzz's. I have a Ti, Z, and flx and I compliment them with an opto fuse. The classic gets its fair share of shots too though, however...........the buzzz takes the cake for me!
I have carried two Esp buzzzes and two rocs (one KC pro and one Star) in my bag for four years now. I have to say I love the buzzz. The buzz is a really straight flying midrange and it has great glide. IMO it will go further than a roc. Buzzzes go how you throw them. Throw it flat and it can travel on a frozen rope, throw it on a slight hyzer and it will fly straight with a slight fade at the end. Throw it high with an anhyzer angle and it will fly right and hook up at the end and land flat. I still haven't broke in my buzzzes to the point where one will have a bit more right turn but I look forward to it. I keep the KC pro in my bag as it has beaten up well and become a tad understable. Thrown flat it will slowly turn right or I can throw it on a hyzer line and it will flip up and ride straight. I also use this disc for slower touch shots as I find it is easy to control because of this understability. I put the Star San Marino Roc un my bag when I lost my drone. I honestly don't throw this disc much. It flies straight with a fade at the end of the flight, or it will turn harder when thrown with hyzer. I am thinking of replacing my rocs with possibly a comet or meteor, and either a drone, wasp or hornet for my star roc. Best of luck.
I carry both, because for me. The Roc can handle the wind better. However, when I was new to the game. I could not stand the Roc, but that was because I was still learning how to throw. Now that I have a better understanding of the technique required I love my Roc!
Soooo why not carry both?
I have carried BOTH. I prefered the Buzzz over the Roc just because I carry a Under Stable mid, a Straight Mid, and a VERY Over Stable mid. Carrying One mid Mold has never done it for me. So, the disc that has replaced my Buzzz as my Straight mid is the Star LYCAN. I am REALLY liking the Lycan. Doesn't turnover quite as easy on me as the Mako, GLIDES FOREVER, and goes STRAIGHT. My Over Stable mid is a Star Gator and my Under Stable mid is a Star Kite. I gots my basis Covered. :)
No 2 discs draw such passion I must say. For good reason too, they are both great discs. The feel on them is completely different and they net vertually the same results in different fashions. I too threw the Buzzz when I first started, mainly because I just didn't like the rim on the Roc. Once I got the hang of throwing mids I switched to Roc because I kept over shooting holes with my Buzzz.
Recently the Westside Warship has come out, and my idea of a mid has changed. It has the long smooth glide of a Buzzz, and when slowed down it behaves like a Roc. It has more glide and stability than my Buzzz, and is more accurate than my Roc due to the slower arm speed. Loving the Warship.
Nothing wrong with any of these discs.
old champ cobras are my go to mids,but i do rotate a buzzz,warship,and an ontario roc into the mix when i'm away from my home course.so figure out what works for you and feels good in your hand and throw it.good luck and happy hucking!