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So...I can't (or don't know how to) throw with enough speed/power/etc to get a disc to flip enough for an S-Curve. However, I've been able to throw my Nuke, Beast and Samurai at a slight Anhyzer to get that curve & distance that I'm looking for and so far it's been working pretty well, especially with the Nuke. I actually get a consistent snap with the Nuke when throwing that way.
Not that I'm going to fix what ain't broke but...is that normal? When most people go for an S-Curve, is it generally done by overpowering the disc? Or giving it a little anyhyzer? Or maybe both?
Just curious :)
I give a little bit of anhyzer. It really does depend on your power level and the particular disc. Maybe try out a King.
Hey what ever works for you! For me, I like to hyzer flip the disc and if done right. I get a nice helix ("S" curve), but to do this. I use under stable discs since I don't throw that far (330ish). The discs that I can do this on a consistant basis are : Vulcan, King, Valkyrie, Sidewinder, and Leopard. So if you want to try it. Go find some understable discs and check out discgolfreview.com for some great instructional articles.
I don't know if one produces better "D", but I would think the way you perform this gives you consistant results as apposed to doing a hyzer flip? I must add that it sure looks and feels great when you pull off a perfect hyzer flip with a helix. Dang sound like a snowboard trick lol!!
Jm is right, depends on the players ability and power level. I know some people like throwing over-stable disc with anny to get what they consider to be better D, but I can chunk a Flash as far as anything out there. If you are throwing smooth and with decent power then discs like Wraiths, beasts,flash, and so forth should flip up on a natural S curve for you.
Do whatever you feel comfortable doing, distance will come as long as you are willing to watch people who throw farther then you actually throw instead of watching how far the disc soars. I used to think 200 feet was a good throw when I first started, now I get pissed if I cant get it past 400 on an open power throw.
True that throwing over-stable discs thrown on an anny are indeed flex shots.
The 'S' curve you guys are describing is the normal turnover of a disc and the fade back out of it. The big D flex shot that you guys are talking about is something different. Being able to throw an inside to out anhyzer with the nose down to the left, blow through an apex and have is turnover right and then flex back left once the LSS kicks in is something else. Explaining it is a pain.
Dion Arlyn from discraft gives a great demo of this on You Tube under the Discraft throwing texhnique section.
True, it is tough to differ from the other so I left all that out. lol
You CAN learn a lot about release angles in relation to what each disc is capable of by trying to throw a big flex shot with it. I would start with something a little slower and maybe lighter in weight. Don't laugh, but I love throwing big 'D' lines with my daughters 150g Star Valk. Other than throwing it in the most open fairways imaginable, it takes up so much room to throw that I don't use that shot. I have learned some shot shaping techniques from getting to know the shot though that has helped me manage other shots on the course.
Just don't let it effect the rest of your game and how you generally throw a disc. It would just one of your many tools. The Exception, not the Rule.