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I have been trying to step up my game this last year and had a question.  I currently use a star Teebird as my primary driver.  I love the control I get and the versatility that it allows when throwing on hyzer, anhyzer, and straight line shots.  The only drawback to using this disc is the distance I am getting with it.  I can throw it about 300' with pretty decent accuracy though I am not really able to push it past that.  I know that form and practice will help me achieve more distance.  I have seen the results of that in the last season alone.  But, most of the guys I play rounds with use distance drivers as their go-to discs.  I have tried many of these discs and find them much harder to control.  They do add a little more distance sometimes, but the accuracy seems to suffer because of it.  I have heard people talking about getting the discs up to speed for them to fly as they are designed to.  So, if I am not throwing distance drivers accurately, am I just picking the wrong distance drivers or is it more of a "I don’t have the snap to be using discs rated much faster than a Teebird" kinda thing?  I got a few distance drivers for Christmas to try out.  I heard the Striker is a little longer than a Teebird, but similar.  Should I just wait until I am throwing my Teebird a little longer before moving on to faster discs?  I have seen guys throw Rocs 350' and it makes me think I should just concentrate on form for a while rather than looking for a faster disc to add to my distance. What do you think?

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hey i just did this, i was throwing all the faster discs and my accuracy was horrible i went and picked up some slower discs just the other day and it is already way better. The striker is good i like it it a lot its kinda like my star tl but just a tad further. IMO if you want something longer but more control try the lat 64 Flow in the GL plastic i really like its accuracy and can chunk it.
You might want to try some of the less stable high speed discs and then maybe in some lower weights. I heard that the new Vulcan is just that. Also I have found that I need to remember to grip the disc a bit better with the wide rim. I love my Lemon Lake Katana and I just hit one of my best drives ever with it the other day. But it is slightly understable with a bit of a turn at the end. Stay away from the Star Katanas for sure (the flat top ones). So if you want to give the high speeds a try, maybe the Vulcan is right for you. You are still going to have to smooth out your technique as a poorly thrown high speed disc just won't go any further. And I also have friends that throw a lot more high speed discs than I do. That Lemon Lake Katana is really my only true high speed disc. That disc is money for me but it did take a bit to learn.
I would "bother" with a few. But when it comes time to make that clutch shot that you gotta have.. i'd pull out the T-Bird you already throw well. Being short and in the fairway is better than being long and in the trees IMO. Since right now you get about the same distance with both i'd try the faster disc on open holes where accuracy doesn't matter as much. TRY A Z nuke. Its likely that a bad throw with your z nuke will go further than a good throw with your t-bird..
I say try out faster discs but never get away from the teebird for most drives. I have struggled to find drivers faster than the teebird that I like. Some snap comes from your fingers(not just wrist). So when using a wider rim disc it can take away from the finger muscles generating that extra power. Faster drivers I have had sucsess with include Viking, Wraith, Teerex, Crush. I've never used a Striker or an Orc but I've heard those recomended many times to us Teebird lovers. To this day, however, I throw my Teebird just as far as anything else.

Given your distance with the TB I might consider going with some faster discs.  Speed 9-10 range.  I'd suggest the Valkryie, Orc, SL or Beast.  If you want to branch out into other companies, the Flash or Striker would be good choices





In my opinion, it would be silly not to try other discs. The first disc I threw over 350' is a Champion Orc. It is technique and it is discs that get distance. If you can throw a Teebird 300' you can work with a faster disc well enough to work on turnover distance etc. AND faster discs go farther. It's just physics. For me, on a fairway, I seem to throw a Force just as far as I throw a Nuke. But if I was trying for distance, in the open, the physics of air on a Nuke rim allow it to go farther than do the physics on a Force. 

 By the way, I won't forget to contact you for a round when I come to play the DOZEN courses within 10 miles from you. Shady Oaks and Sunrise are on my wish list. 


For other questions and concerns - there is also a CHAT function on this website and usually an insightful golfer will inform you. 

You only need to throw wide rimmed drivers if you want to compete with players throwing farther than you.

A 300' controlled drive is a beautiful thing unless the hole plays 350' and everyone else on your card parks it.  Then that 300' drive just cost you a stroke to the field.

I had to learn a Nuke to keep up with everyone else who throws it.  A Nuke is harder to control.  So what.  It goes 50' farther than anything else in my bag.  Cold weather already cuts down on distance so you have to do what you have to do.

It is not like you can just decide to make all your putts within 100 feet.  That won't happen, no matter how good you are, or how good you think you are.

My control driver is a Flash or a Crush.  I still throw them on holes easily within reach.  But you can't will your control driver to fly farther.  And if you put maximum effort on a control driver it is no longer controlled.  That is like trying to parallel park at expressway speeds.

Your answer is in the 'bags' of top pros.

Their big drivers are all wide rimmed.

Double G, the big distance thrower uses them.

Avery Jenkins uses them.

Dave Feldberg.... Ken Climo.....


Of course they are not used on every hole for every shot.

Having mastered the Teebird a great disc, don't stop using it, but use it when its necessary (you'll know).

And don't forget your mids, buzzz, rocs... they are worth more than anything.

Don't be afraid to learn.

You'll never learn how to swim if you don't jump in the water.


Hey, I have tried the Wahoo, actually like it. (That's one of the perks of being a reseller DPS).

Good luck!

but we are talking about joe course,the guy who just got a bag,do you really think he needs to buy and throw something he cant throw,just to put money in the shop cash register..dont push disc on guys just to make a buck,still havent heard from you guys who throw record distance with big rimmed disc,come on we talking about  a 20yr old mold that is distance champ,how do you get around that,the valk,
Start with a roadrunner.
We have a winner! I would also recommend a Pro Wraith , start with something in the mid to high 160's.

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