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Just wondering with the impact Blizzard Champion plastic is having recently on the game if people think there should be weight limits for pro tourneys, am tourneys, etc.? Discuss.
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Permalink Reply by Jim Coonradt on April 19, 2012 at 10:52pm No.
Permalink Reply by Ron Suir on April 20, 2012 at 12:04am agreed.. there are already rules in place. PDGA approved already means something when stamped on a disc.
Evolution of the disc will keep giving us more distance with less form, power, skill... whatever you want to judge it by. Just like in ball golf with the drivers being made of new material or the balls having been made in a way for optimal shot selection. I think the only thing that will change from this new distance everyone will be having is the creation of longer courses.
As far as the being a weight limit, I say no. Yes you get added distance but you lose control in the wind.
Permalink Reply by josh wieschowski on April 20, 2012 at 10:03am No.
Permalink Reply by Allonzy on April 20, 2012 at 3:19pm Japan already has a weight limit on discs used over there, I believe its 159.9
This is to limit damage to people and objects, not to ensure more distance from the players.
There already are weight limits/requirements for discs. Do you mean minimum weights as well? If so what would be the point?
Permalink Reply by Norm Cole on April 20, 2012 at 6:06pm I don't know, I was curious to hear what people thought. For example, in track and field the discus has to weigh a certain weight and everyone throws the same weight. So, the discus itself gives no one an advantage over the other competitors. But, if lighter weights can be thrown further...just wondering if it gives an "unfair" advantage to the players with the lighter discs.
Permalink Reply by Jay Dub on April 20, 2012 at 6:25pm No because anyone can throw the lighter discs.
Permalink Reply by Allonzy on April 20, 2012 at 9:46pm If everyone has equal access to the same product then it doesn't give anyone an unfair advantage.
Lighter weights can only be thrown further in certain conditions. The key is matching the mass of the disc with a person's ability to accelerate it. Since we are not throwing in a vacuum, there are several environmental variables in play. So, even if, in perfectly calm conditions one of us can throw a blizzard boss as far as Bradley rips his 171 SDS, he still has the advantage because that disc is going to behave similarly across a wider range of environmental conditions than the blizzard boss will.
Caveat: I am talking level golf shots, here. I am not talking about distance shots being thrown on a 45 degree trajectory. I am not sure if there is even a counter argument there, I just want to make sure it is avoided.
Lighter discs go farther under some conditions for some people than heavier discs. World records have always been thrown with discs lighter than max weight for the mold. The only thing special about Blizzard discs is that some molds haven't been able to be made much lighter in the past. Players are not throwing more accurately even if sometimes they can throw farther with a Blizzard disc than what they threw before. There's no threat of courses becoming obsolete due to occasional longer throws unless they develop a disc that hones in on the basket better at long distances.
Permalink Reply by david swamp thing black on April 22, 2012 at 9:54am The head of those Japanese leagues must have a weak arm. Lots of Japanese are really good pitchers in baseball. They must use a lighter ball over there. Tough adjustment coming to the states. I just hope they play by the same rules
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