175 star skeeter, no wind to slight headwind. it has little to no fade and will hit and stop. 180 star aero, cross wind or head wind. throw hard and low and it will go on any line you put on it; so will the skeeter. they are the two straightest disks i've ever thrown.
I don't think it's as hard as some people think it is... you do need to know your plastic well though. I just like to let the disc do the work for me... I basically just flick my wrist on a hyzer and that stratus will flip up and go 200 ft.