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I might be missing the boat on this one,but how is slowing the game of disc golf down with these "LESSER DISCS" supposed to do anything but slow the game ,and its growth down. What a waste of energy this is for the P.D.G.A. Maybe there should be an L.D.G.A. (LESSER DISC GOLF ASSOCIATION). Then maybe we could get a free subscription to LESSERMAN comic books with our membership. But then again, some people say that less can be more in some scenarios. But in my opinion, in this case, less is just plain old less. Another example of the P.D.G.A.'s "extra wide lipped "cutting edge approach. SLOOOooow and too careful. LONG LIVE DISC GOLF!!!

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I think its supposed to keep the existing course playable. With the disc technology today some courses are too short. The first course in WI can be played with a putter, not much of a challenge.
There are a lot of opinions about this new class. Like what Chuck Kennedy said in the article on the PDGA board called Throwback to the Future with Super ClassTM, - "the winning balance tilts more toward touch and accuracy versus technology and power."
I don't think this class will get as popular as what the powerful drivers and distance that the regular game of disc golf gets but I as a disc golfer who's been playing for a couple years, will try super class sometime next year. I think anything new concept to bring more players to disc golf the better. Chuck made some good points and reasons why Super Class was concepted. I believe there is another forum discussion on discgolfersrus that talks about the new Super Class as well. I'll always be drawn to disc golf no matter what. I love the game. long-distance or lesser.
http://www.pdga.com/super-class
I found the discussion board too:
http://www.discgolfersr.us/forum/topics/super-class-2009?page=3&...
kinda seems like slalom vs downhill skiracing to me
both fun in their own way, ultimately the same sport but with different tools...

seems like it "adds to" more than it "takes away from" DG as is
& yeah, should be fun to hit up the dinker courses with bigger lids tourney style...

I'd prob play SC a couple times a month just for kicks on the local track then hit an event if it was handy or tied into a bigger trad DG tourney...........
No one is making you throw "lids." This post is not well reasoned. I hardly doubt the PDGA spent much effort on the idea. It seems instead like it was an idea that many older school players have been kicking around for a while that morphed naturally into its own class. It takes a lot more skill to throw some of these "lesser" discs well. You can't just swing your arm as hard as you can and have the disc correct all the flutter for you like modern drivers. I love throwing long drivers 450, but I also like throw an ultimate disc 250...it's probably harder to do the latter.

Also, I'm not sure how you figure how this will slow the growth of the game down at all. Could you please elaborate on that thought?
Another negative thread on a class that hasn't even been played yet! Give it a shot before you bag it out.
Note that the final Super Class specs haven't even been approved yet. Our Minnesota schedule of 40-50 events for 2009 was already almost complete a month ago. However, there's still room on many weekends for adding Super Class events and potentially leagues. With 25 miles now being the minimum mileage requirement for sanctioning to C-tiers, there will be opportunities to schedule Super Class events in many places on the same day as already scheduled events.

Many places can't handle the number of players in one event as it is so Super Class cna provide additional opportunities for more to play, especially when certain events like A-tier and NT events exclude lower divisions. It's not uncommon in the summer to have 5-7 softball tournaments on the same weekend and all are filled. Certain parts of the country are getting that level of turnout for disc golf events and will need additional options to offer more events on the same weekend.
it appears to me that virtually the only resources the ORG is putting towards superclass is some volunteer time on setting up the specs, as long as it's not costing anything why not try it? i think the slalom vs downhill analogy is right on.

i do disagree with the waiver of non-member fees for superclass events however.
With all due respect:

Brandon said: "It takes a lot more skill to throw some of these "lesser" discs well. You can't just swing your arm as hard as you can and have the disc correct all the flutter for you like modern drivers."

Chuck said: "Many places can't handle the number of players in one event as it is so Super Class cna provide additional opportunities for more to play, especially when certain events like A-tier and NT events exclude lower divisions."

Keeping these comments in mind, I think it would be logical to have the A-tier and NT events only use super class, seems how the "modern driver" is so easy to throw, compaired to the skill it takes for super class. Then there will be enough room for lower divisions that grow the sport...right? LOL!!

Not knocking Brandon, or Chucks post. I just got a laugh out of this and had to share it.
"I said, with all due respect" Ricky Bobby
All I needed to read was that Super Class could help getting more female participation in Disc Golf, since women make up a larger percentage of Ultimate players than Disc Golf players and exposes people to the game without them immediately needing to learn how to throw golf discs. Great idea.
how bout introducing other players into the game of disc golf. im from marion ohio, and to my surprise this past saturday chuck kennedy (who is the guy who works for PDGA, and does all the rating of each and everyone of us) was there. and guess what he was playing super class. and as he said it, it is to further expand our beloved game. think bout it like this. superclass discs are very similar to ultimate and u can use ultimate discs in it. so for one thing ultimate players can play and practice at their local course and actually compete in super class w/ others who are similar to them. or for people who use to love playing w/ big wide diameter frisbees but havent in a long time. its a great way to introduce the game to them. and another thing say u wanna get another guy started into this great game. if u were them would u rather come out and be able to throw a big diamet super class almost as far as who is teaching u, or would u rather suck w/ a beveled edge discs and watch them drive the shit outta a disc. to me it would make me feel bad and sorta not like it. and then from their they might get into beveled edged discs. so in the end if u dont like it. it dont matter. it doesnt have to pertain to us all.

and actually here is the exact analogy used by mr. kennedy saturday. say their is a guy who sells sno-cones (sno cones being disc golf as it is) and all he sells is strawberry. and we are all cool w/ that cuz thats all we want and love. but then some people may only like grape (being big frisbees) well it lets them get in on the fun. so calling it lesser aint fair. it just lets more and more people get into the sport. and also another great thing is it also gives us all some other choices on what we can play, personally i think it will be fun every once and a while.

but another whole idea of it is making disc golf more like ball golf. so u can have par 3's 4's and 5's.
mr. kennedy also said they will use the current am and pro tees. some short am tees, followed by some short and long pro tees mainly. so its 3's,4's, and 5's. but they can still be reachable in birdies.

sorry for the long response but i think we should all embrace this. hell it can even help some of our approach game. and we get to have fun doing it. cuz i was looking at it just like u 3 days ago but chuck really opened my eyes to all the possibilities of it.

thx
brendan
and ya ur right about that too. along w/ everything i just siad. i forgot chuck said that too.

nitegolfer said:
All I needed to read was that Super Class could help getting more female participation in Disc Golf, since women make up a larger percentage of Ultimate players than Disc Golf players and exposes people to the game without them immediately needing to learn how to throw golf discs. Great idea.
Mark Stephens said:
There is not a SC event on the 2009 MDGO schedule by the way... ;

Mark, can you think of a good 18-hole [or more] course in Michigan for Super Class? Besides Mad-Bert, nothing really come to my mind. I have not played all the new courses on the west side of the state though.

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