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I have a few questions for PDGA members with ratings:
Where you live and play tournaments, are you aware of any players who DNF a bad round or intentionally tank a bad round in order to protect their rating?
If you are aware of such conduct, would it be by the player's own admission or by reputation or suspicion?
Where you live and play tournaments do you think PDGA members are generally aware that it is against the rules for a player to DNF a bad round or intentionally tank a bad round in order to protect his rating, and that the rule violation may be considered for further discipline by the Disciplinary Committee, if reported by the TD? Do you think your TDs know this?
The PDGA Competition Committee was discussing this topic and I was curious if this was widespread or more common in some areas. I have not heard of players doing this in Michigan. I used to know of a player who did this in Illinois but he seems to have quit playing tournaments. I am curious if most players who would do this are also the kind of players who will soon quit playing tournaments because they just are not having fun.
Bruce I have heard of this on one occasion at a Michigan Event. Michigan Am Open a guy walked off the course because he said it wasn't worth hurting his rating.
Permalink Reply by Donny Olow on August 9, 2012 at 3:58pm I feel that if you DNF , you should be banned from PDGA tournaments for a year.
I have been playing Disc Golf tournaments since 1976 and have NEVER DNF'd.
I have no respect for ANYONE who DNF's because of BAD play. I can understand Injury , Wife giving Birth , Car Accident.
Permalink Reply by Ben Calhoun on August 9, 2012 at 4:53pm I know someone who quit with 1 hole to finish he said out loud he didn't want to ruin his rating..this was the Party at The Ponds 2010 I believe my card round 2 look him up he's the kind of person you'd expect to do that.
Permalink Reply by Ben Calhoun on August 10, 2012 at 12:34pm This guy is 'sponsored' too..very pathetic behavior
Permalink Reply by Disc Player Sports on August 9, 2012 at 9:25pm Seen top pros do it..... sad sad sad....
don't they eliminate the worst and best rounds anyway? If not they should.
Top Pros and intentionally quitting sounds like a non-sequitor!
Permalink Reply by MonTTy #794 on August 9, 2012 at 10:20pm Who cares if someone quits for whatever reason. They don't gain anything with a better rating, they just gain a reputation as a quitter. To me thats just one higher place I will finish. This subject comes up over and over here and other forums and I'm getting sick of reading about it.
Permalink Reply by Bruce Brakel on August 10, 2012 at 4:33pm I provided a descriptive title so that anyone who was sick of reading about this would not have to read.
Permalink Reply by David Sauls on August 10, 2012 at 8:14am I don't see it as a big issue. As others have said, there's not much value in a rating. The biggest issue to me is if a player quits between rounds without notifying the TD, or during a round leaving a twosome.
It would be hard to rule on whether someone tanked or DNF'd to protect their rating, or from injury or other legitimate reasons, unless they confess. Who wants to be judge & jury on medical and personal issues?
Permalink Reply by Bruce Brakel on August 10, 2012 at 4:35pm "Who wants to be judge & jury on medical and personal issues?"
The Disciplinary Committee is all volunteers, so I guess those guys.
I agree Dave. The whole ratings thing is overrated and silly. There's not enough prize money flowing in this sport to put so much emphasis on a silly number.
Permalink Reply by krupicka on August 10, 2012 at 8:35am Bruce - I had two DNF this year to protect their rating. It stands out when the score card comes in with just their last hole missing a score. I don't know if these players are aware that this gets reported to the PDGA on the TD report.
I don't know of anyone in PDGA play that has intentionally tanked to protect their rating, but there are a number of times where I've seen/heard about players give up and make everything an ace run or high risk shot because they no longer care.
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