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Hole #13 Pymatuning, Pa.Gold tee 875' par 5,Red tee 635' par5.You tee off into an open area,shooting for the gap in the woods.To get out of the woods. You got aslight down hill throw. At the bottom of the hill there is a wet area.The first basket sits under a big pine tree at the end of the open arae.The 2nd basket sits a little further back under a pine tree.Hope to see you all there in the future.

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Approx. 750ft. Dirt tee, Chainstar target.
Begin with a 400' placement drive across an open field of oddly mowed tall prairie grass and over a large fiberglass Lion, but shooting through a 20' gap in a tree line right in front of the tee. 90 degree left turn, and your drive had better be well placed AND at least 350' or you'll have no shot at a 3/4. Now shoot through 3 tree trunks in another gap of woods, tall trees lining the right side all the way (350' ahead) to the pin, open fairway, but thick rough 150' left. The 2nd shot must go 350' and left to right, but low ceiling at the start, and a slight right blind curve. Basket suspended from a tree near OB road. No one has 3'ed it yet.
on my home course #8 The Hydra (Double Mando to the rejector basket) only 380 but I would say I only par it about 30% Even when I make the mando it still takes almost perfect second shot to give yourself a run. #15 in Joplin gets me most of the time as well.
Hole 16 Cliff stephens park in Clearwater. Not the longest hole on the course but, in a tourney it can cost some strokes. I think its roughly 475' to the left placement where it sits on sundays during the tournament. Definately a deuce, if you clear water the whole way and don't hit any of the trees lining the right side of the fairway. Bank slopes towards the water the whole way to the pin and there is a painted line around the lake on top of the bank. So if you do not cross this line and go in the water, you must re-tee. Pic of this hole and others on this course on my page.
Midland, MI Chippewa Banks Number 3. 400 feet. Tee off from a cement pad. 10 feet infront of pad is 8 foot tall steps. you have to throw high to get it over the steps but not too high to hit the tree leaning over the fair way. Pretty much off the tee you have to hit a 10 foot wide by 10 foot tall gap. Then it's pretty open for 200 feet with a line of tall trees. The rest of the hole is open with the hole hidden behind a 20 foot tall japanese maple tree that leans to the right. All in all a hard tee off with a pretty open fairway. Tough because if you screw up the drive, you end up with a 4 or 5 right away.
Dude Jon even I still don't believe it but I PARKED that hole with a SIDEARM ROLLER like 6-7 years ago! It was insane, it rolled through the ditch and all, and went well past 100' more than I was capable of throwing at the time. Tournament round, too!

Jon Andrews said:
Midland, MI Chippewa Banks Number 3. 400 feet. Tee off from a cement pad. 10 feet infront of pad is 8 foot tall steps. you have to throw high to get it over the steps but not too high to hit the tree leaning over the fair way. Pretty much off the tee you have to hit a 10 foot wide by 10 foot tall gap. Then it's pretty open for 200 feet with a line of tall trees. The rest of the hole is open with the hole hidden behind a 20 foot tall japanese maple tree that leans to the right. All in all a hard tee off with a pretty open fairway. Tough because if you screw up the drive, you end up with a 4 or 5 right away.

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