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Has anyone seen the news lately? All the killer kids? This stuff just gets crazier everyday. If moms are not killing their kids, kids are killing their parents(elders). Today, i read that a 17 year old (who is far from being a little kid) killed his mother because she took his Halo 3 video game from him. Then the other day, i read that a 3 year old shot his babysitter because he stepped on his shoe, then an 8 year old killed his dad while he slept. What is going on with our parenting? What are we lacking? What are we not seeing in our children? Are their signs and we ignore? Do we refuse to discipline and instruct?

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As an educator who has studied how people learn and grow, I can say that one common thing among many Americans today (and not just children, although today's elders learned this trait later on in their lives and kids get on it as soon as they can function) is that people think they are owed something.
"You should get me car. I'm 16." It doesn't matter how responsible you are.
"I should be able to go to college. I'm 18." It doesn't matter that you barely passed high school and can't get accepted where you want to go.
"You need to take me and my friends to _______________ for my Birthday party because that's what Billy's Mom did." It doesn't matter that renting the place out cost $100 without a cake or party favors.
People are losing the ability to think long-term and say, "I want that. In order for me to get it, I need to do this, this, and this." Now, it's just, "Gimme." In their minds, if they don't get what they want, it's your fault--not theirs.
Amen JWI. I work at a parole office as in addition to my job as a mortician and yes, they think that everyone owes them. Children and adults expect awards for things that they are supposed to do. You dont need to pay your kids to clean their rooms, they are supposed to do that. You dont reward a parent for caring for their children...they are suppossed to do that! Work ethic has been lost. Nobody wants to work for anything.

J.W.I. said:
As an educator who has studied how people learn and grow, I can say that one common thing among many Americans today (and not just children, although today's elders learned this trait later on in their lives and kids get on it as soon as they can function) is that people think they are owed something.
"You should get me car. I'm 16." It doesn't matter how responsible you are.
"I should be able to go to college. I'm 18." It doesn't matter that you barely passed high school and can't get accepted where you want to go.
"You need to take me and my friends to _______________ for my Birthday party because that's what Billy's Mom did." It doesn't matter that renting the place out cost $100 without a cake or party favors.
People are losing the ability to think long-term and say, "I want that. In order for me to get it, I need to do this, this, and this." Now, it's just, "Gimme." In their minds, if they don't get what they want, it's your fault--not theirs.
Interesting mix. Have you even seen the same person while working both of your jobs?
The Nubian said:
Amen JWI. I work at a parole office as in addition to my job as a mortician...
I have. I saw a guy at the parole office one week and in the funeral home the next because he got pushed out of a hotel window. He didnt have much to say.

Bill Burns said:
Interesting mix. Have you even seen the same person while working both of your jobs?
The Nubian said:
Amen JWI. I work at a parole office as in addition to my job as a mortician...
except, aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa THUD.

The Nubian said:
I have. I saw a guy at the parole office one week and in the funeral home the next because he got pushed out of a hotel window. He didnt have much to say.

Bill Burns said:
Interesting mix. Have you even seen the same person while working both of your jobs?
The Nubian said:
Amen JWI. I work at a parole office as in addition to my job as a mortician...
Tino, you're horrible! LOL

Tino "SilverBack" Medina said:
except, aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa THUD.

The Nubian said:
I have. I saw a guy at the parole office one week and in the funeral home the next because he got pushed out of a hotel window. He didnt have much to say.

Bill Burns said:
Interesting mix. Have you even seen the same person while working both of your jobs?
The Nubian said:
Amen JWI. I work at a parole office as in addition to my job as a mortician...
I once told my daughter "I couldn't wait to have kids so I could whoop them like I got whooped, but then they changed the law and that's why we got a dog". Only kidding. As a stay at home dad ,I feel it's all about family values. Eating dinner together, going to church as a family,spending "real" quality time together, that's what it's about. Get away from the television.Play a board game or something. I sure hope I'm doing the right thing. Hate to think I could be taken out by my own daughter.
You probably wont be taken out by your daughter because you are raising her. Spending quality time with her. I hope she wouldnt want to off you
Yeah, Jesus is the answer. Tell that the Isralis and Palestinians. God is responsible for 90% of the conflicts in the world.
You are entitled to your opinion butplease dont start God bashing, no one on here has bashed anyones religion. We dont want the thread getting shut down because of a religious disagreement. Everyone is free to believe how they want without bashing someone's religious beliefs.

Trevor Thorp said:
Yeah, Jesus is the answer. Tell that the Isralis and Palestinians. God is responsible for 90% of the conflicts in the world.
What I said is not God bashing. It is the truth. I did not make any comments saying that your belief in God is bad or not right. TheZman, however did say that Jesus is the answer. How is pushing your beliefs acceptable, but my comment is not. Praise the Flying Spaghetti Monster, for he is the only one who can save us. Why do Jesus people get so offended when the point that religion has caused many of the wars throughout history. It is just fact.
Regular discipline (for missbehaving) mixed with family games of disc golf, that's the way to bring kids up. My mom would have never let me get away with some of the things that parents let their kids get away with these days. I see kids in the stores screaming at thier parents "I want it! Gimmie!" or any other number of annoying whineing and begging. My parents would have pulled down my pants and spanked me in front of everyone in the store. Shoot, when I was growing up my parents told everyone of my neighbors and friends parents, up on the hill I lived on, that if they saw me doing something wrong to spank me themselves.
I personaly don't think that religion is the answer (just my oppinion, don't stone me to death), I think there is too much hatered in most religions to teach kids good holesome values. Anything that teaches people, "If you don't belive like I do, Your going to HELL," can't be teaching the right message. We are all here living on this little spining ball of dust and water flying through space and we all have to either get along with each other.

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