The Ponds at Lakeshore

Below is a line drawing map and final hole lengths.

All 24 holes have baskets and concrete pads! Best bet is to print a map before you go, the club is still working on signage. Most baskets have one or two spokes painted blue (pointing to next blue tee) or white (pointing to next white tee).

After Hole two you can either move (right to play 18) to Hole 3 or (left to play 24) to Hole A. If you go to A, then you play A-F and rejoin at 3, for 24 holes.

[Wicked Dyes]

Looks like its going to be a great course Terry. I am available to give a hand on Thursday. What time will you need me out there?

[ROBEY the one.]

looks sweet. i want to play it. good job.

[skinner]

Nice design...it's great when the land for a DG course offers the opportunity to put in a front 9 (in this case 9 and 15) and a back 9...which gives you the 'turn' at the parking lot. Well done...

[Terry "the Pirate" Calhoun]

If you go 10-12, F, A-E, 13-18, you get a second loop of 15, too.

Plus, at times when the course is not busy, the nature of this property really lends itself to great safari holes. The only single place that there is anything resembling schule is in the middle of the "dry" pond (comes into play on Hole 12 and mabe on Hole 5). Due to that lack of underbrush and rough, the course plays fast, even though it is long.

And, perhaps you can see it in the aerial, there is an elevated grassy mound between the fairways for Holes 4 and 5, which is an excellent spot from which to watch play on quite a few holes at once. We deliberately did not use that mound as fairway or pin placement, so it would be available for that.

skinner said:

Nice design...it's great when the land for a DG course offers the opportunity to put in a front 9 (in this case 9 and 15) and a back 9...which gives you the 'turn' at the parking lot. Well done...

[Nibs Carter]

So how did you end up with the property?

[Nibs Carter]

wow 13 long looks treaturous!

[ROBEY the one.]

i like #2 long 990, nice. bring out the big guns. good thinking on leaving the mound for a gallery.

[Terry "the Pirate" Calhoun]

Four of us played it Saturday afternoon and although none of us were in the water, my first drive did skip off the water to land dry. We all re-teed for a second drive and took strokes.

What you can't see from the aerial is that all around the pond there is a brick wall that makes a clear OB line, so OB is wider than just the water. And, except for the areas we cleared intentionally, that OB area is filled all the way around with small trees and bushes that slap down drives which do not hit the gaps we cleared.

So you can quite easily, as we each did, clear the water but still land OB.

OB Sand Traps

Something else I did not mention yet in this thread, is the fact that our pin placements frequently take advantage of what were the sand traps of the defunct ball golf course. We're not sure yet how to mark them clearly so that they are fair, in that the traps can be seen from the tees, but they will definitely add a ton of fun when they come into effect. (Right now they are outlined in white or orange spray paint and can be seen up close but not from the tee, so we are not "counting" them yet.) They will cause a great deal of score variability. Holes B, 9, 16, and 17 are the ones you can most likely see in the photograph. Also Hole 2, where the sand traps are dangerous as you set up your approach to the pin, from wherever your previous throw was.

Nibs Carter said:

wow 13 long looks treaturous!

[jd]

Great news -- so what is the course par from longs and shorts?

[Danger Dave *X*24 Chains*X*]

Are we going to be allowed to bring scuba gear with us? I'm just thinking that at the end of the season I could grab a lot of plastic from people overshooting C and E and and undershooting 13. lol

[Terry "the Pirate" Calhoun]

People have already been wading in the pond, brrr, it appears to not be dangerously deep. There will be lots of wet plastic.

JD, we've talked a lot about what the pars will be, but have no conclusions yet. I think we need to see it played by more highly-rated players before we decide. It'd be nice to have pars as we open, but I am not sure that I would want to be stuck with initial pars that we have to change.

One thing that will need to be done on this course is intelligent planting of "back-up" trees, because on many holes only one or two mature trees defend the pin and if they die, the challenge is reduced.

[William Gilbert]

Nibs i drive by that property almost weekly during the summer months after leaving my Aunts to cut her grass. I have eyeballed that property for years. One Friday afternoon i drove in talked to the property manage and in over an hour had him sold on the idea of a course(s) on his property.
His attitude was like the land is not being used, will i get traffic to the complex from the expense. What other benefits are there to me. Well Mike the manager of the apartment complex is a huge supporter of varous charities.

For all the people who bash our club for running the charity events or funding course improvements now you can see yet another reason why we do these things. i don't know if we could have gotten the idea through if it wasn't for the 5 or 13 tournaments we run or participate in that are charity attached. We very likely will be moving some of our events to this course next year if thigs go as planned. We are discussing the possibility of moving Chills at the Mills and Meltdown to Lakeshore next year. Chills may have t obe renamed maybe Shake at the Lake? We have not decided but we will be discussing it.

Assuming the 2nd course happens once A3 has raised enough money to put in a 2nd course and mike is willing for a 2nd course. We can start running bigger events at the complex.
Remember everyone the property will not be Pay to Play, P2P, unless you the disc golfer starts vandalizing, littering or performing other illegal activities. So play for free as long as we self police the course, or expect P2P fees to cover the need for extra security on the property if everybody can't follow the rules of the course.

Nibs Carter said:

So how did you end up with the property?