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So I have been contemplating being a pro at this day and age in the PDGA era, and I have come to some conclusions.
1. We make absolutly no money to support ourselves as the pro payouts are generally terrible.
2. Unless you tour to hit the 'big' events, don't quit your day job.
Why is this? Why is ball golf supporting so many pros and disc golf is not? I have heard the no corporate sponsors bit and agree, but why is this sport so cheap for pros?
What do you think about making the sport cheap for ams and casuals but somehow upping the ante for professionals. Start pay to play at some of the better courses and increasing entry fees substantially at tournaments. If you want to pay 40 bucks to play a tourney, play am, have fun goofing around and make open pro more serious.
What does everyone think?
Sit back, and let me make this simple for you guys.
If there were to be ONE 30 second commercial on Television representing the sport of Disc Golf by a well known figure in the media, the sport would increase more than you could ever imagine; we all know this.
The question is, are we even doing anything to get that far? Do they even want to? Has anyone even TRIED going in a different direction? If the highest of all representatives of Disc Golf think that it's local effort that's going to finally give rise to the sport, they are wrong.
Nobody is going to WANT to put forth effort into something they know nothing about. Nobody is going to WANT to pay to watch Collegiate disc golf because nobody knew there was such a thing.
What we need is representation from important people in the media. How do we get that? Well shoot, if you expect us small-town locals to accomplish that then we might as well just give up. We are trying. There isn't enough of us because in the world of competitive sports, people want some recognition for there dedication.
Local efforts go a long way, but not far enough. I don't know much about anybody that runs the PDGA, maybe they don't want to be main-stream. All I know is that the sport right now is going nowhere but where it has been for awhile. And I say it's GO-TIME.
We have to do something. Somebody call up Tiger woods; a picture of him holding a golf disc would inspire thousands of people to pick up a golf disc just like Tiger does. Bringing Tiger into the picture is a little far-fetched, but come on! We need to head in that direction. There has to be a Big-Time company out there that realizes the potential of Disc Golf. If we could just get ONE big company to completely sponsor disc golf it could mean HUGE benefits for them.
Forget about how much money the PDGA pros are making because, as of now, there isn't even much money to be made. So lets stop with all the bull shit and actually do something about it, guys. Where the hell is Mark Ellis, Climo? I can't reach them easily but some others surely can. They are HUGE in the sport. Don't they want to go main-stream? Don't they want more recognition, followers, money? If not, just let us know now.
Right now in the USA, each and every President has failed to simply RUN the country. Too scared of what people will think of them in the short 4 years they actually have to do anything at all. I know this has nothing to do with disc golf, but I'm sick of this poorly motivated recession type attitude. Do something about it. Our efforts alone are not enough. I live and breath disc golf, 24/7. I'd give everything I have to finally see the sport going somewhere but right now all of this effort and searching for something bigger is taking its toll on me.
Sorry :) for any hurt feelings. All this snow has got me stressed.
Sorry about your being stressed.
It is not worth it.
As far as Tiger Woods goes, I live near Orlando, and his reputation has been altered.
Only thing Tiger is known for unfortunately is picking up **icks.
I'd rather see Michael Jordan or Tom Brady as my choices.
Have a nice day or round of disc golf.
I know both Mark & Ken and why do you think KC is NOT on this site?
Figure it out.
Agree with you all the way.
The problem is the pipe dream theory.
When the tournament way back in 2001 (long time ago for the newbies on this site) we had a captive audience watching the 3 way tie playoff between Climo, McCrae & Eric Tracy.
There was approximately 100-140 some people walking around spectating.
There was the local newspaper there, and when it was all over the reporter told me that we had a bigger audience on the LPGA property than the LPGA women ever did, during the Sprint Series there.
Now if you can disguise it right, with proper camera angles that 140ish amount of people can look like thousands milling around. Seen it done several times when working for MTV, BET & CMT during spring break at Daytona Beach for years. The camera crews pull it off with the correct editing.
Sure you remember the news clips in the 80's. Spring Break! Daytona Beach 100s of thousands came every year until the drinking age changed. And guess what, so did the "Big Time" sponsors and corporate people.
In other words you can make things more sensational than they really are.
And exposing ourselves will not draw millions to go pick up a disc and play (which generates real revenue).
The problem is getting the proper people with influence involved.
10 years ago called the Florida Sunshine Network (yes they are on cable) a cost for a day of shooting, editing and getting a production together.
Back then it was 50K.
I was only kidding about trying a discguised look, just making a point. (Even though its true and happens all the time, even Nascar has done it in the last 2 years. Sales are down due to a bad economy....)
Point being, no matter how many watch, which would be very few, not many new disc golfers will come from one show.
It has to be a series of events or shows. Big money. Right.
Enthusiasm has to have come from a ground swell. Now if everyone were to buy 100 or more discs each that plays, then the manufacturers might consider something ..... maybe.
Okay I'm done. Where's the fork?
It is already going mainstream with the kids coming in, the kids from the older guys playing. Unfortunately those kids are following suit and realize that they are not doing a whole bunch to grow the sport either.
Ever try explaining disc golf to a complete stranger, for one most don't care and it's like talking to a "deer in the headlights." Only disc golfers think it is cool. Out side of disc golf no one really cares. Everyone has their own agendas.
But as far as ESPN, they need advertisers, numbers and money. The big things that disc golf is without.
Until we realize it as a group, it will take a huge effort, to clean up our act and grow up and see it for what is real and unreal nothing huge is going to happen.
Another issue with getting a true National Tour going is that the courses we play on are not ours. For the most part they're in public parks which have to be reserved in advance and there's always the possibility that a troop of cubscouts or a wedding will have reserved a hole or two on the course. Until we can get courses on our own land where the scheduling isn't a problem, establishing any kind of logical order to a tour is gonna be damn difficult.
As to coverage and spectatorship, disc golf is actually fairly hard to manage as it often winds through tight woods and such. On most courses, there aren't that many places to PUT a large crowd.
On the sponsorship front, sponsors will pitch in only where they think they can make some money. Many people get into dg precisely because it doesn't cost much money. Hate to say it, but alot of disc golfers are either broke or cheap. There ISN'T alot of money to be made sponsoring us.
We need a disc golf revolution! Maybe we use the cheapness to our advantage. Disc golf needs to become a public nuisance. We go out and play disc golf everywhere, parks, schools, churches, in the streets! This is what I used to do when I was a thrashing skateboarder. We would grind rails, curbs, bumpers. We would get as much skating in as we could knowing full knowing that we were going to be told to leave. Unfortunately piss a lot of people off, but have a great time doing it.
Flash foward ten years, what do you see? 100K plus skate parks in every other city. Coverage on ESPN? I think yes.
The best thing is that people have accepted skateboarding for a legitimate sport!