What is the condition of the course of good Discgolf?

For what reasons do you think about a good course though there are a lot of
courses in the United States of America?
For instance,
･Course concept.
･There must be two or more lines until reaching a goal.
･Goodness in incidental facilities.
･Scenery etc
How do you think?

[Terry "the Pirate" Calhoun]

* Diversity of throws required to overcome challenges
* Baskets in good condition
* Course/park well-maintained

[Star*man]

I agree with TERRY on Diversity. Several challenges such as WATER Elevation and Trees. Simply putting baskets in a WOODLOT makes for a boring round of Golf. Each region of our nations offer different advantages and disadvantages.
I find having a LOT of fallen leaves on the ground in my area during the FALL makes it a difficult task to find your Disc.
So 18 holes of Hide and SEEK with your (And your partners) Disc in a forested area can be a Long DAY. SO its nice to find yourself in an Open area of GRASS once in a while where you can see the placement of your throws.

Of course with Water Hazards there is always the Possibility of never retrieving your DISC lost in a Lake. So having this RISK at more than TWO Holes becomes a game of cutting your LOSSES throwing your less than Ideal DISC. This sort of SHORT CHANGES your effort at being the BEST at every shot using a poorer performing disc.

BASKETS -YES its the Key element that legitimates the GAME from a sport like Snowshoeing.
I have a TON of natural OBJECT GOLF places in my part of the world but few places with the CHAINS to aim for!
For health reasons a TREE is as good a target but Tournament and League Players certainly want to hear the Chains.
Its a SOCIAL event when you have regular play and regulation baskets makes it a Level Playing Field.

ACCESS- to me is the Only thing Terry has forgotten. Being able to Park your Automobile, your personal Security and other things not associated with FACILITIES such as washrooms. (Which for Mixed League Play is a MUST) Access has a Lot to do with where the course is placed, near a Major Road. Toronto Island comes to Mind where you are limited by Ferry SERVICE which is often Seasonal.

Scenery. This is the ingredient you cannot ADD. It has to be at the site Naturally. You cannot DISC beside an OIL REFINERY and feel good about it! Natural Beauty and Diverse topography are hard to combine with open space available for DISC GOLF. Much land is in Agricultural use or other recreational planning. In a shrinking Planet the land use question is actually a brighter one for DISC golf as it takes about 50% less land that other outdoor sports.

So what I would like to see is many CLUBS to submit a list of Premier SITES worthy of DISC BASKETS State by STATE and a CENTRAL BODY of Stakeholders donating the BASKETS and Making the Pitch to Recreational Parks authorities on the leagues behalf. (Big guns VRS SMALL Potatoes can sell a Health & Recreation Dept on an Idea much easier)

So here you have it.

[Star*man]

Kazuhiko- I would also like to see the Condition of the Course to include "Outside Amenities" that is interesting Tourist Locations. I would like to Disc Golf while on Vacation.
So I would Disc Golf at locations such as Myrtle Beach NC or Daytona Florida if I were to visit these place.
Locally I believe Niagara Falls already has some courses on the American side (Grand Island NY) but nothing as compared to the Whirlpool GOLF course or scenic wonders of the Lower river Gorge. (Incidentally Fort Mississauga site at Niagara on the Lake is the Oldest Golf Course in North America) This would encourage Disc Golfers to bring their Wives for Casino Gambling- Horse Racing- Wine Tours- Historic Forts -Jet Boating the Cataracts and Live Shows while we Throw our Plastic Discs.
Other sites might include the Caribbean Islands- Such as St, Maartins with their TOPLESS BEACHES at Orient Bay
or Veridero in Cuba - Nassau - Jamaica - OH that would be memorable!
But what I am saying if you look at the BIGGER ISSUE of what would make a Course a SUCCESS you have to say
LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION.

[Kazuhiko Gomibuchi]

This can be understood well.
There is little special course of Discgolf in Japan.
There are often courses in the national government park and other parks.
Naturally, it is necessary to note it to throw out Disc because the person gathers.
I want the course to which Disc is thrown out every day.
Star*man said:

Kazuhiko- I would also like to see the Condition of the Course to include "Outside Amenities" that is interesting Tourist Locations. I would like to Disc Golf while on Vacation.
So I would Disc Golf at locations such as Myrtle Beach NC or Daytona Florida if I were to visit these place.
Locally I believe Niagara Falls already has some courses on the American side (Grand Island NY) but nothing as compared to the Whirlpool GOLF course or scenic wonders of the Lower river Gorge. (Incidentally Fort Mississauga site at Niagara on the Lake is the Oldest Golf Course in North America) This would encourage Disc Golfers to bring their Wives for Casino Gambling- Horse Racing- Wine Tours- Historic Forts -Jet Boating the Cataracts and Live Shows while we Throw our Plastic Discs.
Other sites might include the Caribbean Islands- Such as St, Maartins with their TOPLESS BEACHES at Orient Bay
or Veridero in Cuba - Nassau - Jamaica - OH that would be memorable!
But what I am saying if you look at the BIGGER ISSUE of what would make a Course a SUCCESS you have to say
LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION.

[Murph]

The scenery thing reminds me of the time I threw the course in Kingsley, Michigan. It was on a pretty nice park but on one hole you had to throw towards a basket that was sitting in front of an old factory. A sign near the basket read "DANGER - DEADLY GAS" along with that lovely skull with the crossbones going through it.

[Bill Burns]

I know some guys who need to wear that sign on the back of their shirt

Murph said:

The scenery thing reminds me of the time I threw the course in Kingsley, Michigan. It was on a pretty nice park but on one hole you had to throw towards a basket that was sitting in front of an old factory. A sign near the basket read "DANGER - DEADLY GAS" along with that lovely skull with the crossbones going through it.

[humchris]

In my oppinion, which I know isn't everybodys, I think baskets are not needed for a course to be a "Good Course". My favorite course I have played is Horse Mountain, a course located deep in the mountains of Humboldt County. It plays entirely with sticks and trees marked with marking tape. What makes it good is everything else, it has exelent variety, lots of elevation change, some extremly long holes 1000'+, the best scienery that I have ever seen on a DGC, a good mix of wooded and open holes (though deffinatly less open ones), multiple routes to get to the pin on many holes, the list goes on and on. This course also has another advantage to other courses in that it was designed by both a left handed golfer and a right handed one so it has a good balence of holes for leftys and rightys. I'm not too woried about things that alot of other people are like Concrete teepads, baskets (though I think they are good on blind holes that have a chance of aceing), bathrooms, places to buy stuff nearby (as I can bring anything I need with me). Things that are important are design, trees, scienery (I couldn't play next to the toxic gas sign), and course concept.
Just my thoughts take them as you see fit.

Keep Hucking
-Chris UPDGA# 0001

[Born A Buckeye]

Multiple approches to accomplishing the hole.

Trees are nice, but more and more courses are going overboard. Every hole needs established fairways. Not a walking path with trees on both sides and sometimes in the middle.

I hate courses that have some quirky design. Mostly mandos. I have having to throw left of something or under it. I think you should be able to do whatever you can to get in the basket easier.

I guess coming from a ball golf background, Id love to see a legit par 72 layout with green lush grass. I also love courses that use borders to define the greens.

[Jackson]

There are a few things I appreciate on any course:
A place to throw trash.
Accurate signs.
Multiple pin placement options.
Multiple tees.

[Kazuhiko Gomibuchi]

Thank you for various opinions.
The left-handed player may be disadvantageous to them with extremely few things in Japan.
As for me, round cost an American course (Michigan) for the first time this year.
It was demanded various technology every course was unique and to throw.
It is splendid that I can experience a different way of enjoying.

J.W.I. said:

There are a few things I appreciate on any course:
A place to throw trash.
Accurate signs.
Multiple pin placement options.
Multiple tees.

[Bill Burns]

Maybe it's just me, but I think old K.G. uses a Japanese-English translation program.

[eric beich]

I think too often scenery is'nt thought about, but when you play a course with great scenery it really makes a difference.

also having some access to convenience items like soft drinks/water nearby is sometimes important...sometimes not.

and I don't mind mando's or OB's, but make it possible for me to retrieve a disc without having to go ask a farmer with a shotgun permission to crawl over his barb-wire fence and disturb his cows/daughters before I can continue my game!