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LAT 64's new dynamic duo got PDGA approval




Can't wait to try 'em

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Also a mention for an understable fairway disc called the "Diamond". Nice to see the Lat 64 product line growing.

It's official:


The LAT "Digger" on this ^ page is renamed Pain

This Pain is the Roc/Wasp type disc I take it?
yessir...that is correct
When will these disc be on the U.S. market?
Uh...how 'bout right now,Tim
That is all...

I just got my opto pain and opto havoc today! Im excited. I havent thrown them yet but Ill post how they are tomorrow. The opto plastic is pretty gummy as always.. The pain feels like a domey wasp to me or a cross between a wasp and an ontario roc.. the havoc is like a cross between the flow top and halo wing so its kinda domey too.. Not as flat as I thought it would be but looks and feels like itll be fast and controllable



I ordered mine on 1-27-11... hopefully they'll come in some time next week!

Went out today to cause some pain and wreak some havoc... Both these discs rock! The pain is great and flies similar to a wasp after all. The dome isnt as bad as I thought it would be and was even able to rip a couple forehands approach shots with it. One an anhyzer around a tree that flattened out nice and another straight on that hit the basket low. The havoc is an incredible disc as well.. I turned it over into the dirt twice as I think i was just excited and wanted a huge throw. The next couple shots were awesome however.. I realeased it even-slight hyzer at 80% and watch it go! Amazing speed, glide, and predictable fade. Both discs made the bag :) oh and I even tried the pain as a putter and its great too...



Went to DTW friday afternoon and picked up the Havoc. Threw it this morning at the local ball field before work. I like it...will be playing La Mirada tomorrow...more results to come.

Played La Mirada this weekend and used my Opto Havoc for my first real round with it. It is a very nice feeling disc in hand, the rim isn't overly wide. The disc does what you ask it to, but I found it to be nose sensitive, I had to really watch the leading edge on release or it gained heigth fast.

Opto Havoc 169g

I throw 300-325 at 100%

I played a 100+ rounds in the last 4 months


Throw 1 100% (Nice hyzer flip and the nose came up and skyed the throw)

Throw 2 80% (Stayed on  hyzer through the entire throw)

Throw 3 80% (Anhyzered very nice but nosed up again)

Throw 4 80% (Flattened the hyzer a little more and stayed all the way through the throw)

Throw 5 90% (Kept on hyzer-first birdie ever on 14)

Throw 6 80% (Low anhyzer from elevation flew very nice)

Throw 7 100% (Anhyzer the nose came up again)

Throw 8 80% (Anyhzer from elevation- too much disc for hole 17, but kept the nose down)


I figured out real quick to watch my nose angle and was able to control it on hyzers. Depending on how hard I threw it on hyzer it flipped or it stayed on hyzer. Anhyzers are a different thing, I will have to work on my release angle to keep it from nosing up. I am certainly addicted already to the speed and responsivenees of the disc and it fits in nice with my Opto River and GL Vision.

I have played several rounds with my Havoc at this point and I am thoroughly happy with this disc and ready to buy a few more. I played my first tournament last saturday with the Havoc in my bag and used it on about a third of my drives. I love that it holds the hyzer line throughout a throw with a large skip at the end. It hyzer flips nicely and goes long when I want it to, and it will turnover nicely when thrown hard and flat. I can get 350' out of it with accuracy, but have to throw it on hyzer when I throw it for less distance.


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