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Hello fellow disc collectors. In my collection I have many of the Original Champion discs. Teebirds, my favorites, Valks, Eagles, Leopards, and Firebirds. As I'm sure you know there were several runs of these discs with some changes to the plastic. I'm trying to seperate the fact from fiction and truth from theory. Almost every time I question someone about how they know what they have I get because I know when I bought it or I've bought or had so many I can just tell whats what. However I feel everyone has their own theorys of how to differentiate between the runs and the differences. So I'm hoping you all can help to dispell the myths.

Here are a few of the things I've heard. The somewhat clear ones are from the 4th-5th runs and are the same as todays champ plastic. Others have said 4th or later run tbirds are taffy plastic like the 10x KC's. TL's came before T's and even ones marked T are really from the TL mold. The true 1st run valks areBlueberry in color. The earliest runs have raised lettering on the stamp and later runs are smooth. The bump in the center of the flight plate has some signifigance as does how the lettering and weight are written on the back inside or outside of the ring.

Now that I've revealled the tip of the iceburg I ask what can you add, dispell or agree with. Any input is welcome.

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hey man,
all deep red anything is 1st run and everything is a L (tl,fl,el) now the 2nd runs are the hard ones to tell most feel like pro plastic 3rd runs and are close to regular champ but have vains running from the center 4th and later are pretty much regular champ
PS if your looking to sell or trade for teebirds let me know


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