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Multi part question here.....What is the call on a disc that was stuck above 2 meters (assume the rule's in effect) ....if it fell while walking to the lie? A disc is stuck in the side of a basket...but falls out while going to retrieve it...what is the call? I understand that once a disc is at rest...it's at rest....so the main question here...for both scenarios.....What is a reasonable amount of time that a disc is to be considered "At Rest"?

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The answer is spelled out in rule 803.08C for disc above 2m falling before you get there.
The "at rest" call is at the request of the player and at the prerogative of the group to grant. There is no official amount of time for a disc to be at rest and the Rules Committee doesn't plan to publish a specific time based on asking them this question. So, unless the player throwing a wedgie asks the group for an 'at rest' call and they agree, the player needs to hustle to the basket to retrieve the disc before it potentially falls.

The group can still grant an 'at rest' call if the player doesn't get to the wedgie before it falls out but they don't have to. On really windy days, it's not uncommon for a group to let a player replace his disc on the ground that blew from its position because maybe it was tilted up on a rock and the wind got under it before he got to it to mark it.
So in sense..it would be prudent for the thrower to immediately ask for an "At Rest" call upon stuffing a wedgie....while wasting no time in retrieving said wedgie. Don't assume it was good if it falls out before you get there to retrieve it.

Do the rules currently address an "At Rest" call....if so...what section?
The rules don't say anything about a group making an 'at rest' call, just specifies what actions are allowed if a disc at rest is moved. Technically, players/groups have made at rest calls all the time on windy days without thinking about it. When your putter lands in the chains on a windy day, it could be securely in the chains but all of the chains are swaying in the wind. We instinctively sense there's a certain amount of time to look at the putter, determine it's really in there and remove it, even though the disc maybe was never at rest. That would be a new term for the rules called "relatively at rest."
I think the rules committee should eventually address it...because of a host of newer flexible softer plastics. I believe more controversy could arise for not defining a Disc "At Rest" specifically when applying it to a wedgie/holing out and a reasonable amount of time in which either the disc is considered at rest/holed out or a time frame in which the player requests an "At Rest" call.

I can foresee a drive with a R=Pro driver sticking in the side for what would be considered an ACE....to fall out before the thrower can get there to retrieve it.
Next year is when the Rules Committee will be overhauling the whole rulebook as needed. So that's when people can submit their requests for changes.
will we be notified?
Yes to both questions.
So Basically 803.13 B applies.

B. Disc Entrapment Devices: In order to hole out, the thrower must release the disc and it must come to rest supported by the chains or within one of the entrapment sections. This includes a disc wedged into or hanging from the lower entrapment section but excludes a disc resting on top of, or hanging outside of, the upper entrapment section. The disc must also remain within the chains or entrapment sections until removed.
Thanks for the input Chuck.

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